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Post Options Post Options   Quote ricardovaste Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2013 at 12:22
I think it depends on how far you want it to grow. Personally, I think if you want a place you can show your own images, share them, perhaps have people contact, have some customization over what it looks like then something like Smugmug or Zenfolio is absolutely ideal. If you think is probably fits your description then go with one of them. You can try it for a while and see what you think - even a year will pass quicker than you'd expect, and you may have some thoughts on limitations / expansion or be more than content with it.

I personally chose the route of wordpress. It enables the flexibility that I wanted.

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Originally posted by Nappa Nappa wrote:

The only problem with your own website is getting traffic to it where as Flikr generates it's own internal traffic to view your work.

Web site optimisation is time consuming & / or expensive unless you rank high in search engines you will receive little traffic to your site.



SEO is not the dark art it used to be. But if you aren't adding content regularly people won't go no matter the ranking.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote keith_h Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2013 at 13:05
Originally posted by ricardovaste ricardovaste wrote:



I personally chose the route of wordpress. It enables the flexibility that I wanted.



Richard, what theme have you based your site on?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Nappa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2013 at 13:30
Originally posted by keith_h keith_h wrote:

Originally posted by Nappa Nappa wrote:

The only problem with your own website is getting traffic to it where as Flikr generates it's own internal traffic to view your work.

Web site optimisation is time consuming & / or expensive unless you rank high in search engines you will receive little traffic to your site.



SEO is not the dark art it used to be. But if you aren't adding content regularly people won't go no matter the ranking.


Although not a exactly dark art it is very, very time consuming to beat the opposition to page one in the search engines when you have 100000 other web sites trying to get there ahead of you!

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I'm going to second Smugmug. There's also 500px and a few others.

I think "roll your own" is asking for trouble.

I already run my own server to host email and a little bit of other stuff related to my day job, and I don't run my own web gallery.

If you aren't a computer expert, don't run your own server. You'll get hacked and end up spamming the world. Plus, it costs WAY more to run your own server.

Smugmug basic is $40/year. Other paid portfolio sites are similar. A VPS or hosted site is going to be way more than that, especially if you want lots of storage.

Using one of the specifically made for photography sites is going to get you a more professional polished look, and they're going to upgrade over time. You also don't have to worry about what will happen if you have a sudden spike in popularity (which does not always correspond to a spike in sales).


If, for some reason, you do decide to roll your own, for heaven's sake use Ubuntu or one of the other distros that actually updates with some frequency. Red Hat/Centos is always a year or two behind. Ubuntu will have as many or more pre-supported projects/packages.
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Originally posted by ricardovaste ricardovaste wrote:


Above all, avoid anything flash based. No need for it.

^This

Once you've found your website package just focus on content. SEO isn't a black art if you have good content, sensible named and labelled images accompanied with meaningful text.

It's all the basic rules of writing you learnt as a kid. If you have a picture reference it in the text. Don't just stick a picture by itself.

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I think smugmug could be fine for you Leo . Give it a look .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rovhazman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2013 at 16:06
Great information so far! I am also thinking of leaving SmugMug and start my own site. Well, I am thinking about it for long time but never find the time to do it... And now it seems that it might not be a good idea...

Does anyone try using LR to generate the HTML pages and upload them to your own server?
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I had the same questions years ago searching for a good site. Then I found SmugMug. And I must say, it's great! See my gallery.
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Originally posted by thornburg thornburg wrote:


If, for some reason, you do decide to roll your own, for heaven's sake use Ubuntu or one of the other distros that actually updates with some frequency. Red Hat/Centos is always a year or two behind. Ubuntu will have as many or more pre-supported projects/packages.


The security fixes for RHEL/CentOS are backported from recent releases of the packages. And additional repositories do provide pre-support projects/packages as well.

Of course, what I've said before applies: if you don't have experience managing a computer server, don't roll your own.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote thornburg Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 October 2013 at 16:46
Originally posted by paulofessel paulofessel wrote:

Originally posted by thornburg thornburg wrote:


If, for some reason, you do decide to roll your own, for heaven's sake use Ubuntu or one of the other distros that actually updates with some frequency. Red Hat/Centos is always a year or two behind. Ubuntu will have as many or more pre-supported projects/packages.


The security fixes for RHEL/CentOS are backported from recent releases of the packages. And additional repositories do provide pre-support projects/packages as well.

Of course, what I've said before applies: if you don't have experience managing a computer server, don't roll your own.


To each his own.

I wasn't referring to bug fixes/security patches.

I was talking about features.

I tried CentOS twice. Each time I jumped ship because I googled "how do I do X with package Y" and the answer was "upgrade to the latest release of the package", which, with CentOS, meant waiting 6-18 months. On Ubuntu it has been 0-6 months.
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Originally posted by kerrath kerrath wrote:


Kelly, I think you're using a free WP theme on your site, however, not one suited to displaying galleries. There ARE free WP themes which support galleries, though not as robust as the paid ones. With your current setup, I would add a link to the Jalbum gallery on your menu bar.


Craig,

Yep, free is good! That's the basic Twenty Ten theme using the Jalbum Badge Widget in the right column. Thanks for the tips. I do know about the gallery themes -- the free ones and the excellent ones for sale, but I didn't really want my main page to be a gallery. I wanted a clean and simple blog interface. One that friends and family could easily post to -- of course as you can see, they have not! At this point this is just a hobby for me for which I have limited time. But I do need to fix the gallery link in the menu to Jalbum as you suggest.

Your site is very professional, ideal for a professional photographer! Very nice job!

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Once again thanks for all your reactions!
They are very helpful.

What is clear to me now is that I don't need traffic: I don't have the ambition to sell my photos. I want a place where I can show them the way I like, plain and simple.

Neither do I want to spend a lot of time in maintaining the site and in getting to know the technicalities of it all.

So I guess what I'm after is a more or less ready made solution for displaying galleries. From what you showed me WordPress and (a customized form of) Zenfolio seem very attractive, and I will do some more research on these.

Further comments very welcome!


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