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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pirate Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2015 at 22:49
Ahoy!

For image storage that's free, fully customisable plus you can link to images and have separate folders and create slideshows etc, I use Joomeo.

Works for me even though I have a 500GB external HDD.

 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote belgianpie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 April 2015 at 09:30
I've been thinking lately to buy just new cards every time they are full, for the price 64GB (almost 4,000 FF RAW images) goes these days. Just back-up and store for use on a few large HDD and keep the cards stored away somewhere, in a fireproof safe or something.
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A lot has changed since this article was written. Storage options are better than way back then, drives are bigger and more reliable than ever before. SSD storage and RAID configurations can offer faster/increased redundancy, depending on which way you go.

And for the win, some vendors offer robust backup solutions with their products. Excellent.

These days I have a Synology Rackstation as the primary location for my image files. This runs four drives in a fault tolerant array with the option of additional drives when the time comes. I've been using these devices since 2010 and found them to be completely reliable. And yes, I appreciate that nothing is safe unless it exists in at least two places. I have a huge collection of DVD archives as well.

All my audio CD's and DVD's are ripped to the NAS as well, so it stores more than just images. We are fully embracing the digital lifestyle here with a NAD M10, but that's a whole different story.

With ON1 (Lightroom previously) and proper attention to metadata tagging, images are at the fingertips quite literally.

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I'm much more cloud-based now.

The high-speed fibre connections we now have make accessing folders on the cloud easier, and with P-cloud I've got a 2TB storage.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote keith_h Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2021 at 02:49
Just as an "I told you so", NAS hard drive crashed. it's a logical fail, not a physical fail but I've ordered two bigger ones since its now five years old anyway.

My fault since I shut the unit down to clean the dust from the drive bays and cocked something up when I took them out and put them back.

Anyway, remarkably and despite the horror story in the image below... there has been no interruption to service, no data lost. I'll pop the new drives in one at a time and rebuild the volume. That will be about 16TB of storage then, or at least 12 once its built the new drives into the volume.

Let this be a lesson to all of us.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote MinoltaMad Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 August 2021 at 04:10
At least it's just time and not data getting that all aligned up again! Nice setup. It is unfortunately a necessity where we have to invest in some way to not do the faster/better in our photos but just to have what we put the hard work into secure. Cloud isn't a good option for me cost wise and I don't have the cool rackstation setup - mine is a more hands on clunky approach. Duplicate 14TB drives - one constantly backing up at home and then a second which lives in a secure remote location backed up every 3-6 months.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tricky01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 May 2022 at 19:59
Similar to Keith_h, I've just invested in a Synology NAS and I want to sing from the roof tops about how great this thing is. Keith's image of his rack looks very IT expert, but my DS920 is very much a consumer unit with easily slid in HDDs. For a very long time I've struggled with my photography archiving. I had a process that was acceptable to me, which broadly went something like this...

Current year
- annual catalogue storing all images for current calendar year (firstly on Aperture 3, more recently CaptureOne)
- Best photos uploaded to private or public galleries of my website
- Backed up via time machine and occasional direct copy of catalogue

End of year
- re-audit all catalogue images and delete superfluous ones
- Build digital album of family photos shortlisted for annual printed phonebook (typically 5-6k photos shortlisted, circa 1k in the book)
- upload all 5-6k to a private cloud space
- Export all RAW images and processed JPGs in top quality to year folder and save on two external HDDs (one stored at home, one off site)

So while I have all images safe, if I need a particular image, it's a manual process of digging out the old hard drive or hoping I uploaded it to my website. Plus, I really missed the face recognition and places tools in Aperture 3 that let me view all images of a person or a place as and when I wanted.

Skip forward to today and having the Synology NAS and I've copied all my images over. It's taken a few days, but they're now all indexed and browsable by date, place and even face. It'll even index the ARW images (albeit without the processing the PJGs benefit from). It's so liberating to have easy access to all these old memories. I always assumed a NAS would be a bit too much like hard work, but the UI and inbuilt apps are really really good with Synology and very easy to use. It's not a replacement for backups, but a wonderful compliment. Next step is to run previous year CaptureOne libraries off referenced images on the NAS, but that can wait for another day, for now though, I can't recommend this enough.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote overeema Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2023 at 13:05
I have the following workflow to keep my pictures as save as reasonably possible.

During my phototrips.
I cycle my memory cards very 150-300 pictures. Total capacity of the memory cards in my backpack is about 43 GB. In my backpack I have an image tank of 500 GB, on which I copy the memory card that just came off a camera. The imagetank automatically stores each memorycard in a separate directory. After each phototrip I'll make sure that my memory cards have enough free space for the next phototrip by removing the oldest pictures.

At home or hotel or camping
I connect the imagetank to any of my computers with USB interface and bulkrename the pictures into a unique naming convention (change DSC0abcd into {something unique}abcd) with a program called Bulk Rename Utility. This allows me to identify by which camerabody the pictures were taken. I then copy the contents of the imagetank onto my NAS. I use two QNAP servers with RAID-5 in different locations with different external connectivity. From home I can access both as a drive letter. The pictures are replicated over both NASses. Over the internet I rarely upload my imagetank. I'll make sure my imagetank has at least 100 GB of freespace after it has been uploaded to my NAS. If it hasn't I'll replace the harddisk with a new one.

Post processsing
At irrgular intervals I post process pictures folder by folder on one of the NASs.
After completion I replicate the postprocessing results to the other NAS.

NAS maintenance
I regularly monitor my harddisks in the NASses and replace them preventively before their MTBF expires. The replaced disks will be wiped and reconditioned using a tool and will then serve as offline backup storage. I will make two backups from my NAS data and store them in two different places. Both NAS have NAS graded harddisks of different brand: either NAS has WD or Seagate or Toshiba.
I also make cloud backups from my NAS at irregular intervals (typically 3-5 times a year).

Catalogue
I manually maintain a catalogue that is stored on boths NASs that enable me to find the directory with 150-300 pictures with any wanted picture. When I need pictures for a project I'll collect copies of the contents of my picture library into a new folder on any work computer using the catalogue as a selection tool.

Edited by overeema - 11 May 2023 at 13:40
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2023 at 15:48
Originally posted by overeema overeema wrote:

I connect the imagetank to any of my computers with USB interface and bulkrename the pictures into a unique naming convention (change DSC0abcd into {something unique}abcd) with a program called Bulk Rename Utility. This allows me to identify by which camerabody the pictures were taken.
I don't know what camera(s) you have, but the newer camera bodies include configuration item to customiaze the start of the filename (DSC by default).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote overeema Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2023 at 16:04
I am aware of that. It is a feature I asked for more than a decade ago. My camera's are from before Sony fulfilled this feature request. See my signature for further details.

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