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my-spot 
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 Posted: 26 November 2007 at 06:42 |
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Great! I was wondering if we would pick this up again.
My latest lens list is included with RAWHide. My list mentioned above is a bit more dated. I will update my list in the near future based on some of the info included in some of the other lists. What I would REALLY like to know is where the focus distance data is stored in the MRW & ARW files... |
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Posted: 26 November 2007 at 19:02 |
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I have updated my LensID list based on the info from the Dyxum list and some other sources. In many cases, the same lens has multiple ID numbers and/or there are Multiple Lenses with the same ID number. Also there are often multiple versions of the same lens (New, G, HS, RS, II, etc). All of these things tend to inflate the actual number of entries vs the actual number of lenses available.
Anyway, I now have 174(!) entries. However, The Dyxum database has over 300 lenses listed! That means there is a VERY long way to go. The list is available if you download RAWHide or from here... I make no claims as to accuracy... So... It would be great if someone would "Proof-Read" the list and compare it to some of the other lists available. Please send me any corrections or omissions. Edited by my-spot - 26 November 2007 at 22:21 |
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hotwire
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Posted: 27 November 2007 at 04:00 |
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I am attempting to proofread your csv right now, while adding some additional info, specifically the dyxum database ID code for each lens. The important upshot of this is that we might be able to add all the fields from the dxyum db into this csv with these codes included.
Now is a good time I figure to confirm the semantics of Minolta lens designations. Are we going to write F or f/ ? Next, if an aperture is a whole number, are we going to write it as F4 or F4.0 (or f/4 or f/4.0) for consistency? I presume the "sub id" column is for distinguishing lenses with the same KM lens id? Edited by hotwire - 27 November 2007 at 04:03 |
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a99ii; Maxxum 9
CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G |
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my-spot
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Posted: 27 November 2007 at 18:06 |
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The SubID is just that. It doesn't come from any KM supplied lens data, rather it is a way to keep the various lenses straight. In the case of RAWHide, The user can make sure His lens is called out by adjusting the SubID to 0 in the list.
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hotwire
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Posted: 27 November 2007 at 18:53 |
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I'm a good way through my first revision and updating of your table, having removed a lot of redundancies, and also some lenses that I have seen no data on yet.
I have (so far) added two columns: Dyxum Lens ID, and another SubID column for the DyxumlensID for when the same lens (supposedly) has more than one KMlensID. I am also updating the table to include all the lenses in the Dyxum database, even if we don't have the KMlensID. I'm hoping that Kiklop can do something with the dyxum database to insert whatever is in the Dyxum database into our table, to maximize the amount of info available. Perhaps also with the lens id in the table we can provide an option in the program to open a browser window right to the dyxum lens page. |
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a99ii; Maxxum 9
CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G |
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my-spot
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 00:19 |
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I have gone thru the new list fairly thoroughly and have found the following lens that have LensID's but no reference in the Dyxum Database. The LenID, Brand, Lens Description... These might be incorrect callouts or brands also.
138 Soligor 19-35mm F3.5-4.5 142 Voigtländer 70-300mm, F4.5-5.6 26311 Sony AF 100-300mm F4.5-5.6 APO 26211 Minolta AF 100-300mm F4.5-5.6 Power Zoom 25521 Tamron AF 17mm F3.5 128 Tamron AF 80-300mm F3.5-6.3 25811 Tamron SP 90mm F2.8 Macro 255 ??? Unpublished Lens I do not know what LensID 255 is... It was the LensID found in an a700 Raw file I obtained. The problem is, I do not know who took the picture. |
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 00:36 |
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The following LONG list is the Lenses that are in the Dyxum lens database that we have not yet been able to find LenID's for. If you own one of these lenses - or - if you know the LensID number please PM me.
The first number is the Dyxum lens database number. Paste the number on the end of this url to see the lens... http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/detail.asp?IDLens= Example: to see the Tamron AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical the url is... http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/detail.asp?IDLens=108 DyxumID Brand Description 108 Tamron AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical 109 Tamron AF 28-105mm F4-5.6 IF 110 Tamron AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical IF 112 Tamron AF 75-300mm F4-5.6 LD 116 Tamron SP AF 200-500mm F5-6.3 117 Tamron SP AF 90mm F2.8 Di Macro 118 Tamron SP AF 180mm F3.5 Di LD IF Macro 120 Tamron SP AF 14mm F2.8 121 Tamron SP AF 28-105mm F2.8 LD Aspherical IF 123 Sigma AF 15-30mm F3.5-4.5 EX Aspherical DG DF 125 Sigma AF 17-35mm F2.8-4 EX DG Aspherical 126 Sigma AF 20-40mm F2.8 EX Aspherical DG DF 127 Sigma AF 24-60mm F2.8 EX DG 128 Sigma AF 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro 129 Sigma AF 24-70mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF 130 Sigma AF 24-135mm F2.8-4.5 Aspherical IF 131 Sigma AF 28-70mm F2.8 EX Aspherical DF 132 Sigma AF 28-70mm F2.8-4 High Speed Zoom 133 Sigma AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical Macro HF 134 Sigma AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical Mini Zoom Macro Aspherical 135 Sigma AF 28-105mm F2.8-4 Aspherical IF 136 Sigma AF 28-105mm F3.8-5.6 UC-III Aspherical IF 137 Sigma AF 28-135mm F3.8-5.6 Aspherical IF Macro 138 Sigma AF 28-200mm F3.5-5.6 Compact Aspherical HZM 139 Sigma AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 Macro 140 Sigma AF 50-500mm F4-6.3 EX APO RF 142 Sigma AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 APO Macro Super II 143 Sigma AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 Macro Super II 145 Sigma AF 100-300mm F4.5-6.7 DL 146 Sigma AF 135-400mm F4.5-5.6 APO Aspherical 147 Sigma AF 170-500mm F5-6.3 APO Aspherical 149 Sigma AF 14mm F2.8 EX Aspherical 150 Sigma AF 15mm F2.8 EX Diagonal Fish-Eye 151 Sigma AF 20mm F1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF RF 152 Sigma AF 24mm F1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF Macro 153 Sigma AF 28mm F1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF Macro 158 Sigma AF 180mm F3.5 EX APO Macro IF 159 Sigma AF 300mm F2.8 EX APO 160 Sigma AF 500mm F4.5 EX APO 161 Sigma MF 600mm F8 Mirror 162 Sigma AF 800mm F5.6 EX APO 164 Tokina AF 17mm F3.5 AT-X AF PRO 165 Tokina AF 20-35mm F2.8 AT-X PRO 166 Tokina AF 28-70mm F2.8 AT-X 287 AF PRO 168 Tokina AT-X PRO AF 80-200mm F2.8 169 Tokina AT-X 300mm AF Pro 300 F2.8 170 Tokina AT-X AF 24-200mm F3.5-5.6 171 Tokina AF 80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AT-X 840 AF-II 176 Tamron AF 20-40mm F2.7-3.5 Aspherical IF 178 Tamron AF 80-210mm F4.5-5.6 181 Tokina AT-X AF 100-300mm F4 AF-II 188 Sigma AF 180mm F2.8 APO Macro 189 Tamron AF 70-210mm F2.8 SP LD 191 Tamron SP AF 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 Di II LD Aspherical IF 194 Sigma AF 18-125mm F3.5-5.6 DC 196 Tokina AT-X AF 400mm F5.6 SD 197 Sigma AF 18-50mm F3.5-5.6 DC 198 Sigma AF 55-200mm F4.5-5.6 DC 206 Sigma AF 180mm F3.5 EX DG IF APO Macro 210 Sigma AF 17-35mm F2.8-4 EX Aspherical 211 Sigma AF 24-70mm F2.8 EX DF 212 Sigma AF 28-70mm F2.8 EX DG 213 Sigma AF 50-500mm F4-6.3 EX DG APO 215 Sigma AF 24mm F2.8 220 Sigma AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 DG Macro 221 Sigma AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 DG APO Macro 222 Sigma AF 500mm F4.5 EX DG APO 223 Sigma AF 300mm F2.8 EX DG APO 224 Sigma AF 400mm F5.6 APO Telemacro 225 Sigma AF 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC 226 Sigma AF 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC 227 Sigma AF 70-210mm F2.8 APO 228 Sigma AF 500mm F7.2 APO 231 Sigma AF 170-500mm F5-6.3 APO DG 235 Vivitar AF 19-35mm F3.5-4.5 Series 1 236 Cosina AF 100mm F3.5 Macro 239 Sigma AF 75-300mm F4-5.6 DL Zoom 240 Sigma AF 28-200mm F3.5-5.6 DG Macro 242 Tamron AF 55-200mm F4-5.6 Di II 245 Tokina AF 28-70mm F2.8-4.5 248 Sigma AF 75-200mm F2.8-3.5 249 Tokina AF 28-70mm F3.5-4.5 SD 250 Tokina AF 70-210mm F4-5.6 SD 251 Magnicon AF 70-210mm F4.5 252 Magnicon AF 28-70mm F3.5-4.5 MC 253 Magnicon AF 28-80mm F3.5-4.5 254 Magnicon AF 70-210mm F4-5.6 MC 256 Tokina AF 20-35mm F3.5-4.5 257 Vivitar AF 28-70mm F2.8 Series 1 260 Arax MC 35mm F2.8 Tilt and Shift 261 Vivitar 28-210mm F3.5-5.6 263 Voigtlander AF 28-210mm F4.2-6.5 APO Zoomar 267 Sigma AF 30mm F1.4 EX DC 270 Tamron AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 Aspherical 272 Sigma AF 28-70mm F2.8-4 UC 273 Sigma AF 135-400mm F4.5-5.6 APO DG Aspherical 274 Sigma AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 DG Macro 276 Sigma AF 90mm F2.8 Macro 277 Sigma AF 28-105mm F2.8-4 DG 281 Voigtlander AF 100mm Macro Dynar 282 Tokina AF 20-35mm F3.5-4.5 283 Tamron AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2 284 Tamron AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 XR Di Aspherical IF 285 Tokina AT-X AF 17mm F3.5 286 Tokina AT-X AF 24-40mm F2.8 288 Tokina AT-X AF 300mm F4 290 Sigma AF 28-70mm F2.8 (Zen) 291 Voigtlander MF 125mm F2.5 SL Macro APO Lanthar 292 Tamron AF 35-90mm F4-5.6 293 Sigma AF 70-210mm F2.8 APO (new) 301 Sony AF 16mm F2.8 FishEye 303 Sony AF 28mm F2.8 304 Sony AF 35mm F1.4 D G 309 Sony AF 300mm F2.8 G SSM 313 Sony AF DT 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 D 316 Sony AF 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 319 Tamron AF 24-70mm F3.3-5.6 Aspherical 321 Sigma AF 15mm F2.8 EX DG Diagonal Fish-Eye 322 Tokina AF 100-300mm F5.6-6.7 327 Sigma AF Fisheye 8mm F3.5 EX DG Circular 328 Sigma AF 70-210mm F3.5-4.5 APO 341 Tokina AT-X AF 100mm F2.8 Macro 342 Sigma AF 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 APO 344 Tamron SP AF 35-105mm F2.8 Aspherical 345 Sigma AF 21-35mm F3.5-4.2 348 Sigma AF 70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro 349 Tokina AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 EMZ AF-II 350 Tokina AF 100-300mm F5.6-6.7 EMZ 351 Tamron AF 70-210mm F3.5-4.5 352 Sigma AF 18-50mm F2.8 EX DC Macro 353 Sigma AF 28-70mm F2.8 354 Sigma AF 300mm F2.8 APO 355 Tokina AT-X AF 300mm F2.8 358 Tamron SP AF 20-40mm F2.7-3.5 Aspherical IF 359 Sigma AF 18-35mm F3.5-4.5 Aspherical 363 Tamron SP AF 90mm F2.5 Macro 364 Tamron AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 LD IF Aspherical Macro 365 Tamron SP AF 90mm F2.5 Macro 367 Tamron SP AF 90mm F2.8 Macro 369 Sigma AF 28-70mm F2.8-4 DG 371 Sigma AF 800mm F5.6 EX DG APO 372 Sigma AF 70-210mm F3.5-4.5 APO Macro 374 Tamron AF 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 Di II LD Aspherical IF 376 Sigma AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 DL Aspherical IF Hyperzoom 377 Tamron AF 100-300mm F5-6.3 378 Tokina AF 35-300mm F4.5-6.7 381 Tamron SP AF 70-200mm F2.8 Di LD IF Macro 383 Tamron AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 LD AD IF 386 Sigma AF 24-70mm F3.5-5.6 UC Aspherical 391 Zenitar MF 16mm F2.8 Fisheye M42 397 Sigma AF 400mm F5.6 402 Tokina AF 80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AT-X 840 407 Sigma AF 400mm F5.6 APO 414 Arax MC 80 F2.8 Tilt & Shif 415 Sony AF DT 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 Edited by my-spot - 01 December 2007 at 21:14 |
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my-spot
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 21:12 |
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I have knocked a few more missing LensID off the list. It is up to 203 IDs found. A new csv file is available here...
Note: This new list is not yet compatible with RAWHide. I plan to add some functionality to RAWHide to help us fill in the rest of the list... Edited by my-spot - 01 December 2007 at 21:15 |
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 21:36 |
I seem to have found references to two lenses with a 255 LensID... Tamron SP AF 17-50mm F2.8 XR Di II LD Aspherical Tamron AF 55-200mm F4-5.6 Di II It would be great if somebody could double check the LensIDs if they have one of these lenses. Lenses with such differing specs usually do not have the same ID. |
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hotwire
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 22:18 |
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Not necessarily.
On the bright side, the focal lengths of these lenses do not overlap, so if the lensID is in fact the same, then we use focal length to narrow it down. |
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a99ii; Maxxum 9
CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G |
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 22:30 |
Sony 100-300 APO lens does not exist. There are like 4 or 5 lenses in the dyxum database that are Tamron 90mm Macro's, so I'm sure 25811 is one of them. Having a photo of which lens may come in handy. |
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a99ii; Maxxum 9
CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G |
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Turerkan
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 23:29 |
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i dont think there was ever a voigtlander branded 70-300 (a 100-300 or 100-400 is possible as cosina built both focal lenghts)
the tamron 17/3.5 should be tokina if the FL and F number is correctly given, noone else made such a lens. uppublished lens might be a non chipped lens? (m42, zenitar etc) 80-300/3.5-6.3 doesnt look right at all.. it could be only a cheap cosina zoom or not exist. also renaming the Power Zoom to xi would be a good idea. soligor 19-35 is a very possible lens. cosina manufactured 19-35 under a hundred names, was a very widespread lens in its time. Ultrawide for next to nothing! |
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 23:33 |
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391 Zenitar MF 16mm F2.8 Fisheye M42
414 Arax MC 80 F2.8 Tilt & Shif these lenses dont have chips, no lensID possible. also the 161 sigma 600/8 is a suspect for not having chip inside.. i'm not totally sure tough. |
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Posted: 01 December 2007 at 23:40 |
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260 Arax MC 35mm F2.8 Tilt and Shift
this one has no contacts too 215 Sigma AF 24mm F2.8 sanjuro has one, he might help if he's reading 188 Sigma AF 180mm F2.8 APO Macro noone on dyxum has this lens. and i have doubts if it really ever existed in A mount.. 276 Sigma AF 90mm F2.8 Macro i have it, i'll post the relevant data when possible. 291 Voigtlander MF 125mm F2.5 SL Macro APO Lanthar it 'might' lack a chip.. H_K_F has one, only if he reads this! 281 Voigtlander AF 100mm Macro Dynar 236 Cosina AF 100mm F3.5 Macro these are same lenses, i doubt they'd have different chips, its not the cosina way of doing it. ok.. i finished the list, this is all i know:) |
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