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Great! I was wondering if we would pick this up again.
My latest lens list is included with RAWHide. My list mentioned above is a bit more dated. I will update my list in the near future based on some of the info included in some of the other lists. What I would REALLY like to know is where the focus distance data is stored in the MRW & ARW files...
 



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I have updated my LensID list based on the info from the Dyxum list and some other sources. In many cases, the same lens has multiple ID numbers and/or there are Multiple Lenses with the same ID number. Also there are often multiple versions of the same lens (New, G, HS, RS, II, etc). All of these things tend to inflate the actual number of entries vs the actual number of lenses available.
Anyway, I now have 174(!) entries. However, The Dyxum database has over 300 lenses listed! That means there is a VERY long way to go.
The list is available if you download RAWHide or from here...

I make no claims as to accuracy... So... It would be great if someone would "Proof-Read" the list and compare it to some of the other lists available. Please send me any corrections or omissions.

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I am attempting to proofread your csv right now, while adding some additional info, specifically the dyxum database ID code for each lens. The important upshot of this is that we might be able to add all the fields from the dxyum db into this csv with these codes included.

Now is a good time I figure to confirm the semantics of Minolta lens designations.

Are we going to write F or f/ ? Next, if an aperture is a whole number, are we going to write it as F4 or F4.0 (or f/4 or f/4.0) for consistency?

I presume the "sub id" column is for distinguishing lenses with the same KM lens id?

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a99ii; Maxxum 9

CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G
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The SubID is just that. It doesn't come from any KM supplied lens data, rather it is a way to keep the various lenses straight. In the case of RAWHide, The user can make sure His lens is called out by adjusting the SubID to 0 in the list.
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I'm a good way through my first revision and updating of your table, having removed a lot of redundancies, and also some lenses that I have seen no data on yet.

I have (so far) added two columns: Dyxum Lens ID, and another SubID column for the DyxumlensID for when the same lens (supposedly) has more than one KMlensID. I am also updating the table to include all the lenses in the Dyxum database, even if we don't have the KMlensID. I'm hoping that Kiklop can do something with the dyxum database to insert whatever is in the Dyxum database into our table, to maximize the amount of info available. Perhaps also with the lens id in the table we can provide an option in the program to open a browser window right to the dyxum lens page.
a99ii; Maxxum 9

CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G
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I have gone thru the new list fairly thoroughly and have found the following lens that have LensID's but no reference in the Dyxum Database. The LenID, Brand, Lens Description... These might be incorrect callouts or brands also.

138          Soligor     19-35mm F3.5-4.5
142          Voigtländer     70-300mm, F4.5-5.6
26311          Sony     AF 100-300mm F4.5-5.6 APO
26211          Minolta     AF 100-300mm F4.5-5.6 Power Zoom
25521          Tamron     AF 17mm F3.5
128          Tamron     AF 80-300mm F3.5-6.3
25811          Tamron     SP 90mm F2.8 Macro
255          ???     Unpublished Lens

I do not know what LensID 255 is... It was the LensID found in an a700 Raw file I obtained. The problem is, I do not know who took the picture.
 



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The following LONG list is the Lenses that are in the Dyxum lens database that we have not yet been able to find LenID's for. If you own one of these lenses - or - if you know the LensID number please PM me.
The first number is the Dyxum lens database number. Paste the number on the end of this url to see the lens...

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/detail.asp?IDLens=

Example: to see the Tamron AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical the url is...

http://www.dyxum.com/lenses/detail.asp?IDLens=108


DyxumID Brand     Description

108     Tamron     AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical
109     Tamron     AF 28-105mm F4-5.6 IF
110     Tamron     AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 XR Aspherical IF
112     Tamron     AF 75-300mm F4-5.6 LD
116     Tamron     SP AF 200-500mm F5-6.3
117     Tamron     SP AF 90mm F2.8 Di Macro
118     Tamron     SP AF 180mm F3.5 Di LD IF Macro
120     Tamron     SP AF 14mm F2.8
121     Tamron     SP AF 28-105mm F2.8 LD Aspherical IF
123     Sigma     AF 15-30mm F3.5-4.5 EX Aspherical DG DF
125     Sigma     AF 17-35mm F2.8-4 EX DG Aspherical
126     Sigma     AF 20-40mm F2.8 EX Aspherical DG DF
127     Sigma     AF 24-60mm F2.8 EX DG
128     Sigma     AF 24-70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro
129     Sigma     AF 24-70mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical HF
130     Sigma     AF 24-135mm F2.8-4.5 Aspherical IF
131     Sigma     AF 28-70mm F2.8 EX Aspherical DF
132     Sigma     AF 28-70mm F2.8-4 High Speed Zoom
133     Sigma     AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical Macro HF
134     Sigma     AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 Aspherical Mini Zoom Macro Aspherical
135     Sigma     AF 28-105mm F2.8-4 Aspherical IF
136     Sigma     AF 28-105mm F3.8-5.6 UC-III Aspherical IF
137     Sigma     AF 28-135mm F3.8-5.6 Aspherical IF Macro
138     Sigma     AF 28-200mm F3.5-5.6 Compact Aspherical HZM
139     Sigma     AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 Macro
140     Sigma     AF 50-500mm F4-6.3 EX APO RF
142     Sigma     AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 APO Macro Super II
143     Sigma     AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 Macro Super II
145     Sigma     AF 100-300mm F4.5-6.7 DL
146     Sigma     AF 135-400mm F4.5-5.6 APO Aspherical
147     Sigma     AF 170-500mm F5-6.3 APO Aspherical
149     Sigma     AF 14mm F2.8 EX Aspherical
150     Sigma     AF 15mm F2.8 EX Diagonal Fish-Eye
151     Sigma     AF 20mm F1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF RF
152     Sigma     AF 24mm F1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF Macro
153     Sigma     AF 28mm F1.8 EX Aspherical DG DF Macro
158     Sigma     AF 180mm F3.5 EX APO Macro IF
159     Sigma     AF 300mm F2.8 EX APO
160     Sigma     AF 500mm F4.5 EX APO
161     Sigma     MF 600mm F8 Mirror
162     Sigma     AF 800mm F5.6 EX APO
164     Tokina     AF 17mm F3.5 AT-X AF PRO
165     Tokina     AF 20-35mm F2.8 AT-X PRO
166     Tokina     AF 28-70mm F2.8 AT-X 287 AF PRO
168     Tokina     AT-X PRO AF 80-200mm F2.8
169     Tokina     AT-X 300mm AF Pro 300 F2.8
170     Tokina     AT-X AF 24-200mm F3.5-5.6
171     Tokina     AF 80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AT-X 840 AF-II
176     Tamron     AF 20-40mm F2.7-3.5 Aspherical IF
178     Tamron     AF 80-210mm F4.5-5.6
181     Tokina     AT-X AF 100-300mm F4 AF-II
188     Sigma     AF 180mm F2.8 APO Macro
189     Tamron     AF 70-210mm F2.8 SP LD
191     Tamron     SP AF 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 Di II LD Aspherical IF
194     Sigma     AF 18-125mm F3.5-5.6 DC
196     Tokina     AT-X AF 400mm F5.6 SD
197     Sigma     AF 18-50mm F3.5-5.6 DC
198     Sigma     AF 55-200mm F4.5-5.6 DC
206     Sigma     AF 180mm F3.5 EX DG IF APO Macro
210     Sigma     AF 17-35mm F2.8-4 EX Aspherical
211     Sigma     AF 24-70mm F2.8 EX DF
212     Sigma     AF 28-70mm F2.8 EX DG
213     Sigma     AF 50-500mm F4-6.3 EX DG APO
215     Sigma     AF 24mm F2.8
220     Sigma     AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 DG Macro
221     Sigma     AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 DG APO Macro
222     Sigma     AF 500mm F4.5 EX DG APO
223     Sigma     AF 300mm F2.8 EX DG APO
224     Sigma     AF 400mm F5.6 APO Telemacro
225     Sigma     AF 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC
226     Sigma     AF 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 DC
227     Sigma     AF 70-210mm F2.8 APO
228     Sigma     AF 500mm F7.2 APO
231     Sigma     AF 170-500mm F5-6.3 APO DG
235     Vivitar     AF 19-35mm F3.5-4.5 Series 1
236     Cosina     AF 100mm F3.5 Macro
239     Sigma     AF 75-300mm F4-5.6 DL Zoom
240     Sigma     AF 28-200mm F3.5-5.6 DG Macro
242     Tamron     AF 55-200mm F4-5.6 Di II
245     Tokina     AF 28-70mm F2.8-4.5
248     Sigma     AF 75-200mm F2.8-3.5
249     Tokina     AF 28-70mm F3.5-4.5 SD
250     Tokina     AF 70-210mm F4-5.6 SD
251     Magnicon     AF 70-210mm F4.5
252     Magnicon     AF 28-70mm F3.5-4.5 MC
253     Magnicon     AF 28-80mm F3.5-4.5
254     Magnicon     AF 70-210mm F4-5.6 MC
256     Tokina     AF 20-35mm F3.5-4.5
257     Vivitar     AF 28-70mm F2.8 Series 1
260     Arax     MC 35mm F2.8 Tilt and Shift
261     Vivitar     28-210mm F3.5-5.6
263     Voigtlander     AF 28-210mm F4.2-6.5 APO Zoomar
267     Sigma     AF 30mm F1.4 EX DC
270     Tamron     AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 Aspherical
272     Sigma     AF 28-70mm F2.8-4 UC
273     Sigma     AF 135-400mm F4.5-5.6 APO DG Aspherical
274     Sigma     AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 DG Macro
276     Sigma     AF 90mm F2.8 Macro
277     Sigma     AF 28-105mm F2.8-4 DG
281     Voigtlander     AF 100mm Macro Dynar
282     Tokina     AF 20-35mm F3.5-4.5
283     Tamron     AF 70-300mm F4-5.6 Di LD Macro 1:2
284     Tamron     AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 XR Di Aspherical IF
285     Tokina     AT-X AF 17mm F3.5
286     Tokina     AT-X AF 24-40mm F2.8
288     Tokina     AT-X AF 300mm F4
290     Sigma     AF 28-70mm F2.8 (Zen)
291     Voigtlander     MF 125mm F2.5 SL Macro APO Lanthar
292     Tamron     AF 35-90mm F4-5.6
293     Sigma     AF 70-210mm F2.8 APO (new)
301     Sony     AF 16mm F2.8 FishEye
303     Sony     AF 28mm F2.8
304     Sony     AF 35mm F1.4 D G
309     Sony     AF 300mm F2.8 G SSM
313     Sony     AF DT 18-200mm F3.5-6.3 D
316     Sony     AF 75-300mm F4.5-5.6
319     Tamron     AF 24-70mm F3.3-5.6 Aspherical
321     Sigma     AF 15mm F2.8 EX DG Diagonal Fish-Eye
322     Tokina     AF 100-300mm F5.6-6.7
327     Sigma     AF Fisheye 8mm F3.5 EX DG Circular
328     Sigma     AF 70-210mm F3.5-4.5 APO
341     Tokina     AT-X AF 100mm F2.8 Macro
342     Sigma     AF 75-300mm F4.5-5.6 APO
344     Tamron     SP AF 35-105mm F2.8 Aspherical
345     Sigma     AF 21-35mm F3.5-4.2
348     Sigma     AF 70mm F2.8 EX DG Macro
349     Tokina     AF 28-80mm F3.5-5.6 EMZ AF-II
350     Tokina     AF 100-300mm F5.6-6.7 EMZ
351     Tamron     AF 70-210mm F3.5-4.5
352     Sigma     AF 18-50mm F2.8 EX DC Macro
353     Sigma     AF 28-70mm F2.8
354     Sigma     AF 300mm F2.8 APO
355     Tokina     AT-X AF 300mm F2.8
358     Tamron     SP AF 20-40mm F2.7-3.5 Aspherical IF
359     Sigma     AF 18-35mm F3.5-4.5 Aspherical
363     Tamron     SP AF 90mm F2.5 Macro
364     Tamron     AF 28-200mm F3.8-5.6 LD IF Aspherical Macro
365     Tamron     SP AF 90mm F2.5 Macro
367     Tamron     SP AF 90mm F2.8 Macro
369     Sigma     AF 28-70mm F2.8-4 DG
371     Sigma     AF 800mm F5.6 EX DG APO
372     Sigma     AF 70-210mm F3.5-4.5 APO Macro
374     Tamron     AF 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 Di II LD Aspherical IF
376     Sigma     AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 DL Aspherical IF Hyperzoom
377     Tamron     AF 100-300mm F5-6.3
378     Tokina     AF 35-300mm F4.5-6.7
381     Tamron     SP AF 70-200mm F2.8 Di LD IF Macro
383     Tamron     AF 28-300mm F3.5-6.3 LD AD IF
386     Sigma     AF 24-70mm F3.5-5.6 UC Aspherical
391     Zenitar     MF 16mm F2.8 Fisheye M42
397     Sigma     AF 400mm F5.6
402     Tokina     AF 80-400mm F4.5-5.6 AT-X 840
407     Sigma     AF 400mm F5.6 APO
414     Arax     MC 80 F2.8 Tilt & Shif
415     Sony     AF DT 18-250mm F3.5-6.3


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I have knocked a few more missing LensID off the list. It is up to 203 IDs found. A new csv file is available here...

Note: This new list is not yet compatible with RAWHide. I plan to add some functionality to RAWHide to help us fill in the rest of the list...

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Originally posted by my-spot my-spot wrote:


255          ???     Unpublished Lens

I do not know what LensID 255 is...


I seem to have found references to two lenses with a 255 LensID...
Tamron SP AF 17-50mm F2.8 XR Di II LD Aspherical
Tamron AF 55-200mm F4-5.6 Di II

It would be great if somebody could double check the LensIDs if they have one of these lenses. Lenses with such differing specs usually do not have the same ID.
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Not necessarily.

On the bright side, the focal lengths of these lenses do not overlap, so if the lensID is in fact the same, then we use focal length to narrow it down.
a99ii; Maxxum 9

CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G
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Originally posted by my-spot my-spot wrote:

I have gone thru the new list fairly thoroughly and have found the following lens that have LensID's but no reference in the Dyxum Database. The LenID, Brand, Lens Description... These might be incorrect callouts or brands also.

138          Soligor     19-35mm F3.5-4.5
142          Voigtländer     70-300mm, F4.5-5.6
26311          Sony     AF 100-300mm F4.5-5.6 APO
26211          Minolta     AF 100-300mm F4.5-5.6 Power Zoom
25521          Tamron     AF 17mm F3.5
128          Tamron     AF 80-300mm F3.5-6.3
25811          Tamron     SP 90mm F2.8 Macro
255          ???     Unpublished Lens

I do not know what LensID 255 is... It was the LensID found in an a700 Raw file I obtained. The problem is, I do not know who took the picture.


Sony 100-300 APO lens does not exist.

There are like 4 or 5 lenses in the dyxum database that are Tamron 90mm Macro's, so I'm sure 25811 is one of them. Having a photo of which lens may come in handy.
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CZ: 16-35, 24-70/2.8, 135/1.8; Minolta: 50/1.4; MC58/1.2; 85/1.4GD 300/2.8; 500/8; 600/4; Tam: 90/2.8M; Sig: 12-24/4.5-5.6; 15/2.8; Sony: 35/1.4G; 135STF, 70-200/2.8G
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i dont think there was ever a voigtlander branded 70-300 (a 100-300 or 100-400 is possible as cosina built both focal lenghts)

the tamron 17/3.5 should be tokina if the FL and F number is correctly given, noone else made such a lens.

uppublished lens might be a non chipped lens? (m42, zenitar etc)

80-300/3.5-6.3 doesnt look right at all.. it could be only a cheap cosina zoom or not exist.

also renaming the Power Zoom to xi would be a good idea.

soligor 19-35 is a very possible lens. cosina manufactured 19-35 under a hundred names, was a very widespread lens in its time. Ultrawide for next to nothing!
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391     Zenitar     MF 16mm F2.8 Fisheye M42
414     Arax     MC 80 F2.8 Tilt & Shif

these lenses dont have chips, no lensID possible.
also the 161 sigma 600/8 is a suspect for not having chip inside.. i'm not totally sure tough.
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260     Arax     MC 35mm F2.8 Tilt and Shift
this one has no contacts too

215     Sigma     AF 24mm F2.8
sanjuro has one, he might help if he's reading

188     Sigma     AF 180mm F2.8 APO Macro
noone on dyxum has this lens. and i have doubts if it really ever existed in A mount..

276     Sigma     AF 90mm F2.8 Macro
i have it, i'll post the relevant data when possible.

291     Voigtlander     MF 125mm F2.5 SL Macro APO Lanthar
it 'might' lack a chip.. H_K_F has one, only if he reads this!

281     Voigtlander     AF 100mm Macro Dynar
236     Cosina     AF 100mm F3.5 Macro
these are same lenses, i doubt they'd have different chips, its not the cosina way of doing it.

ok.. i finished the list, this is all i know:)
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