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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 December 2020 at 18:47
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Looking at that price list, I see the cheapest models have quite limited storage space and the models with larger SSDs cost surprisingly more compared to that low end model. And if I have understood correctly, to add to the insult, Apple is not really known for offering computers that users can upgrade by themselves. Sure, there is always option for external storage, but that is not the most elegant one. Or cloud storage, but anything involving a network can have its bottlenecks.


Yep, with the M1 chip - I think the RAM is on the chip now (or something like that) so they will be even less upgradeable. That said, not everyone gets into the switching things out thing, that is popular with some dedicated PC tower builders though.
Yes, certainly changing innards of a computer is not something everybody should do, but still it would be practical if at least you could easily open the chassis and get access to the components that are not integrated to the motherboard. And this is significant not just for the DIY crowd, but also for the (official) repair facilities. I mean it is not the very ecological if you cannot simply swap one broken component when there is need to do that and otherwise the rest of the device is still usable.

 



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Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Yes, certainly changing innards of a computer is not something everybody should do, but still it would be practical if at least you could easily open the chassis and get access to the components that are not integrated to the motherboard. And this is significant not just for the DIY crowd, but also for the (official) repair facilities. I mean it is not the very ecological if you cannot simply swap one broken component when there is need to do that and otherwise the rest of the device is still usable.


true that

I'd overlooked the repair point and was just thinking about upgrades.

I would imagine the large portion of mac folk (mostly laptop or iMac) aren't the upgrade-component type since apple (pretty much) abandoned the tower many many years ago.

Having broken my white plastic iMac (2007 era?) I know rather well that if the mac is of an age and it breaks the only affordable thing to do with it is turn it into a door stop (which mine was for about 5 years). My first computer was a mac (tiny little built in 9" screen) and is STILL a door stop even today. Ultimate apple recycling. I've also broken many iPods before I quit trying another one.
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Well I've had mine for a while now and I'll be discussing it further here, next to my camera its my main photographic tool. I would be interested and maybe other members would be if any are also using a new M1 Silicon chip desktop on a daily basis. The chip in one form or another has been In the IOS devices now for years (phones, iPads, etc)
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The M1 is a different processor from the A-series (A12z; A14 etc) - it is related, but a new development based on the same technology.

Here is a comparizon from a technological point of view.
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BTW, Photoshop now is M1 native.
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Originally posted by Coast Coast wrote:

Well I've had mine for a while now and I'll be discussing it further here, next to my camera its my main photographic tool. I would be interested and maybe other members would be if any are also using a new M1 Silicon chip desktop on a daily basis. The chip in one form or another has been In the IOS devices now for years (phones, iPads, etc)
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I don't have an M1 desktop. But I have an M1 Macbook Air that I run for video work (mostly FinalCut Pro). Everything people have said about the M1 chip is basically true.

I can take a 2 hour video file and it will process, edit and render it at speeds my Alienware laptop (i7 6xxx chip, 16GB RAM and Magix Vegas) can't come close to. It makes it so much easier.
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What generation i7 Wētāpunga? Makes a huge difference.

TBH, 5th gen AMD Ryzen in general is better then 11th gen intel i7and the M1 in general is better then the Ryzen. But the 11th generation i7 is clearly better then the 10th generation i7.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

What generation i7 Wētāpunga? Makes a huge difference.

TBH, 5th gen AMD Ryzen in general is better then 11th gen intel i7and the M1 in general is better then the Ryzen. But the 11th generation i7 is clearly better then the 10th generation i7.


6th generation I think- i7-6700. I'd expect the later AMD and i7 chips to surpass it too.

The laptop is from 2016 even if it had high end specs at the time (4k touch screen etc). It isn't bothered by my photo processing but you do notice it when it takes on video files.

I upped the specs on the MacBook Air also to 16GB RAM and 1TB hard drive.

One of the (non-hardware) factors is that I find FinalCut Pro easier to pick up and use than say, Davinci, and it is an Apple-only program. And it has been optimised to work with the M1 chip.
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