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Post Options Post Options   Quote wetapunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2020 at 06:37
Originally posted by Dena Dena wrote:

I'm still torn between the a99, a99ii, or going to the emount for full frame. I'll have to buy new glass for emount, but I'll need to buy something wide for the a99 or a99ii, as my 16-50 f2.8 is a very good lens, but a crop. My tokina 11-16 too. I'd probably need a Tamron 15-30mm, but that makes me wonder if I should just go emount and also keep my a77ii to use all the old Minolta lenses I love.

I so want to get something better for astro and low light.


The last is kind of my strategy, keep the a77ii and some of the nice A-mount lenses. After all, Iím not really going to get much selling them now. Especially as the A-mount was pulled out of the NZ market at the beginning of last year.

Then shift to full frame E-mount. So far Iíve got an a7riii, some nice primes and a couple of zooms. The biggest change Iíve noticed is that when I had the a7R it was a complement to my a77ii. This time around the a7riii feels like a genuine DSLR replacement.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Swede66 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2020 at 08:46
Originally posted by 2manycamera 2manycamera wrote:

Originally posted by Swede66 Swede66 wrote:

The last A-mount camera will roll out of production sometime during the next couple of months. A-mount is no more unfortunately.

Had a chat with a trusted source yesterday and he recommended me to get an a9 and keep the glass. Their new Fe-A mount adapter will make all Sony a-mount lenses fully compatible to the a9's and a7's.


When you say "their" new FE-A adapter, are you referring to the LA-EA4r monster adapter, or to a possible new adapter from Sony itself?

The "monster" is a reality, even if limited to a number of lenses currently. A new adapter from Sony is a whole different thang.


From what I understood Sony are developing their own adapter. A prototype is already in circulation. They need to have this adapter when shutting down A-mount, without it a switch to E-mount would be very expensive for example users like me with 2 full frame A-mount cameras and 4 G-lenses and lots of other APS-C stuff. The adapter will make the transition easier as I can start with just one E-mount camera and the adapter. With this adapter the A-mount lenses wont loose all of it's value in the 2nd hand market and prevent A-mount users jump ship.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Swede66 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2020 at 08:53
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by Swede66 Swede66 wrote:

The last A-mount camera will roll out of production sometime during the next couple of months. A-mount is no more unfortunately.

Had a chat with a trusted source yesterday and he recommended me to get an a9 and keep the glass. Their new Fe-A mount adapter will make all Sony a-mount lenses fully compatible to the a9's and a7's.

Various things said over the last few years by Sony representatives concerning A-mount can't be trusted. But if there's finally an official declaration of the end of A-mount, I will trust that one.


Yeah, I know that but I trust this guy but I can't, for various reasons, tell you guys who the source is, sorry. Normally I keep myself from spreading stuff that I read or hear but this was too important not too share.
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Originally posted by Swede66 Swede66 wrote:


From what I understood Sony are developing their own adapter. A prototype is already in circulation. They need to have this adapter when shutting down A-mount, without it a switch to E-mount would be very expensive for example users like me with 2 full frame A-mount cameras and 4 G-lenses and lots of other APS-C stuff. The adapter will make the transition easier as I can start with just one E-mount camera and the adapter. With this adapter the A-mount lenses wont loose all of it's value in the 2nd hand market and prevent A-mount users jump ship.


Interesting. But also somewhat questionable. Sounds as if there could be a mix-up with the third-party MonsterAdapter. Or that Sony indeed has decided to not let this stay in the hands of third parties and do it themselves.

Of course I would love such an adapter. I have decided for myself to not upgrade to any new camera as long as there isn't an upgrade path that I can accept. For me, that is a mirrorless adapter with screw-drive support.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2020 at 10:15
I'll believe there is a Sony FE-A adapter when I can buy one. But I really hope Sony will provide it, until they do I can't see myself getting an E mount body.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 2manycamera Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 July 2020 at 15:21
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

I use A-mount lenses on my A7III. E-mount lenses are not required.

The manual APS-C mirrorless Samyang 12mm F2 is a nice astro lens. The Samyang AF 18mm F2.8 and Tamron 20mm F2.8 are good full-frame options. People seem to like the Tamron 17-28mm F2.8 too.



I just bought a Minolta AF 2.8/20mm from KEH in "excellent" condition for $199 which included shipping and sales tax. I will use it on my a99 and my a7Rii with the LA-EA4. There were other choices in native FE, the Sony 1.8/20mm for $900 and the Tamron 2.8/20mm, currently $300. One way was outside my budget and the other only for E-mount (and with significant barrel distortion, though nice in many other ways).

With a few exceptions, full frame FE lenses are just outside my budget, so I will take advantage of the significantly reduced prices of A-mount lenses that are just fine in cross mount. And if either the Monster LA-EA4r, or a possible FE-A Sony adapter find a spot in my camera bag, I will be even happier.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote GreenHighlander Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 August 2020 at 09:17
I suppose there will always be some kind of market for A-Mount gear, though that market will change as and when Sony finally decide to pull the plug on it. If that market becomes solely a second-hand market with prices to reflect a fall in perceived value, then so be it.

I'm in no position to jump over to E-Mount today, whether or not there is an all-singing, all-dancing adaptor in the wings, even if I were to trade all my A-Mount gear in - I simply cannot justify the expense. I have a couple of low-count Mark 1 A77 bodies and a mix of glass, including a couple of G lenses and Zeiss ZA lenses, covering 16mm to 400mm (800mm with teleconverter). It would be nice to get a couple of lenses, but really I have what I need to see me through the next few years.

As and when A-Mount is not supportable and my camera gear cannot be repaired, then as a consumer with (hopefully) money in my pocket, I will look around and choose a new camera set-up that's right for me. That may not be Sony E-Mount, and then again it might. It will depend on the capabilities and requirements I am looking for and the corresponding products that fit those needs; after all, I'm not a professional photographer, just an amateur (some would say "very..."), so it's not like my livelihood depends on it.


All the "death of A-Mount" talk over the past few years led me to not really invest in anything, certainly not new (so, a self-fulfilling prophecy). Instead, I adopted a new maxim:

!! Love the gear you've got, use the gear you've got !!

And that's what I plan to do with A-Mount.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rashkae Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2020 at 07:02
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I'll believe there is a Sony FE-A adapter when I can buy one. But I really hope Sony will provide it, until they do I can't see myself getting an E mount body.


You mean an updated one? Because Sony released them years ago.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2020 at 09:38
Originally posted by Rashkae Rashkae wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I'll believe there is a Sony FE-A adapter when I can buy one. But I really hope Sony will provide it, until they do I can't see myself getting an E mount body.


You mean an updated one? Because Sony released them years ago.


A proper one, full AF on all Sony (& Minolta?) A mount lenses without a mirror. See swede66's posts in this thread.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 August 2020 at 09:48
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

Originally posted by Rashkae Rashkae wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I'll believe there is a Sony FE-A adapter when I can buy one. But I really hope Sony will provide it, until they do I can't see myself getting an E mount body.


You mean an updated one? Because Sony released them years ago.


A proper one, full AF on all Sony (& Minolta?) A mount lenses without a mirror. See swede66's posts in this thread.
Well, the LA-EA1, 2, 3 and 4 ARE proper adaptors. And do not expect "full AF", do expect limitations. It seems like Sony is quite conservative in their view on adaptors. Just take a look at the limitations with the LA-EA3 - a LA-EA5 is unlikely to be any different.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

If there's a seller and a buyer, there's a market. You have an a99II. I have $20. I'll take it off your hands. That's a market.

No, that's an insult. Or an attempt at humour ...   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2020 at 09:44
Originally posted by Swede66 Swede66 wrote:

From what I understood Sony are developing their own adapter. A prototype is already in circulation. They need to have this adapter when shutting down A-mount, without it a switch to E-mount would be very expensive for example users like me with 2 full frame A-mount cameras and 4 G-lenses and lots of other APS-C stuff. The adapter will make the transition easier as I can start with just one E-mount camera and the adapter. With this adapter the A-mount lenses wont loose all of it's value in the 2nd hand market and prevent A-mount users jump ship.

The market for lenses (as opposed to cameras) does jump up as well as down.
Years ago you couldn't get rid of MF lenses for love nor money. Most of them ended up in the junk bins in camera shops. Then when mirrorless came along where new lenses were expensive, suddenly people found those old lenses useful and ebay prices rose up to silly levels. Now the glut of cheap Chinese lenses has pushed it down again.
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

If there's a seller and a buyer, there's a market. You have an a99II. I have $20. I'll take it off your hands. That's a market.

No, that's an insult. Or an attempt at humour ...   


Quite right .
No need to insult the OP with an offer of $20 .
I'll give you £50 !
And the promise that it will get many more years of appreciated use , rather than left on a shelf .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rashkae Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 August 2020 at 16:31
Originally posted by neilt3 neilt3 wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

If there's a seller and a buyer, there's a market. You have an a99II. I have $20. I'll take it off your hands. That's a market.

No, that's an insult. Or an attempt at humour ...   


Quite right .
No need to insult the OP with an offer of $20 .
I'll give you £50 !
And the promise that it will get many more years of appreciated use , rather than left on a shelf .



Well, I mean, that's a far better offer than $20   
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