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It is comical in a way that this works with no problems on these cameras.

 



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I have tested with the a900, 700si and 7D. Only the 7d triggers the flash.
From what I can see it looks like the godox trigger doesn't support properly the flash protocol.
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Originally posted by vitor vitor wrote:

I have tested with the a900, 700si and 7D. Only the 7d triggers the flash.
From what I can see it looks like the Godox trigger doesn't support properly the flash protocol.

That sounds a bit unfair - Godox adopted the flash protocol that was current at the time they designed it - which was the new one introduced with the Dynax 5 and 7 many years before. These (and some subsequent) Sony cameras and flashes were backward-compatible but most of the competition did not bother - they just produced new models with the new protocol (or not ...)
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by vitor vitor wrote:

I have tested with the a900, 700si and 7D. Only the 7d triggers the flash.
From what I can see it looks like the Godox trigger doesn't support properly the flash protocol.

That sounds a bit unfair - Godox adopted the flash protocol that was current at the time they designed it - which was the new one introduced with the Dynax 5 and 7 many years before. These (and some subsequent) Sony cameras and flashes were backward-compatible but most of the competition did not bother - they just produced new models with the new protocol (or not ...)


Not unfair at all.
The trigger should be able to work in two modes, one is TTL the other is Manual mode.
In manual mode the trigger just needs to tell the flash to fire. This behavior is supported by standard hot shoe, iISO and multi interface by two pins.

If it was only TTL mode I would agree with you.
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I have highlighted the functionality that must be enabled for Manual Mode on the XT1. After activating its does nothing when mounted on the A900. It only works using a cable.



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Does anyone have a fully manual flash they could test on the Maxxum 9? The HVL-F20M works fine, none of my Flashpoint stuff will fire on the camera despite the trigger working fine on the Nikon F3 and Minolta XD11.

Reading the manual for the Maxxum Program Flash 5400HS, it seems like it doesn't really have a manual mode. It has manual fill-flash that you trigger using various button combinations on the camera when taking a picture. It makes me wonder if the Maxxum 9 doesn't just send a signal to tell the flash to fire?

edit: Just read the manual for the 5600HS, which does have a manual mode. So that idea out the window.

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Originally posted by beardedspoooon beardedspoooon wrote:

Does anyone have a fully manual flash they could test on the Maxxum 9? The HVL-F20M works fine, none of my Flashpoint stuff will fire on the camera despite the trigger working fine on the Nikon F3 and Minolta XD11.


I have a rather simple Neewer NW300 flash with ilso shoe. It gets fired on the 9 in manual and in ttl modes. Whether this uses the Minolta film protocols as well as the Sony digital ones, I donít know.
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Originally posted by beardedspoooon beardedspoooon wrote:


Reading the manual for the Maxxum Program Flash 5400HS, it seems like it doesn't really have a manual mode. It has manual fill-flash that you trigger using various button combinations on the camera when taking a picture. It makes me wonder if the Maxxum 9 doesn't just send a signal to tell the flash to fire?

When the Dynax 9 is in Manual Mode the 5400-HS can be set to manual mode too by pressing the TTL-M button and selecting the intensity. If the camera is in P mode the flash changes back to TTL when you touch the shutter.
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And, no, the Godox flash isn't triggered by the XPro-S when off camera with the 9 in Manual mode.
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Ready to rock. Well, once I get a flash meter so I don't have to meter with my digital camera.

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That looks grand - do you have a link for the cable?
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Originally posted by Howard_S Howard_S wrote:

That looks grand - do you have a link for the cable?


Here you go: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07T6JRZSB/

I'm sure you can find the equivalent at Amazon UK or elsewhere.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 November 2020 at 17:18
Thanks a lot. - my first searches with Flash, PC and cable were throwing me off the trail!
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I tried and I believe with Godox you'll only get the 9 to fire in manual mode with the pc sync connection. No TTL or high speed sync.

Even the 7 with newest film flash protocols wouldn't play ball. IIRC it looked like it should work but just didn't.
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