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    Posted: 09 November 2019 at 15:11
Hello people! It's been a long time since my last post here. Having long since sold my KM/Sony gear to the number two son and have been very much in the compact camera environment (Nik P7700) A bloke at work ( https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCza1hvHVZmCh0Bzk3jl5NSw ) has infected me with the urge to come out and play again:-)

I'm after a bit of help regarding MD/MC 50-55-58 F1.4 + F1.8 lenses, is any particular version of these worth searching out? I'm mostly interested in wide open capability as I will be adaptering to an OLY Pen EPL-8 and need all the shallow dof i can get

While we're about it, any other sensible to the pocket suggestions from other mounts, Taks/Super Taks im well aware of. Any other sleepers out there worth a go in this range?

Oh has anyone got any thoughts about the Konica-Hexanon 40mm 1.8, is it worth getting an adapter for?

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Check this site:

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A lot of mostly MD-III (1981 and later MF lenses) tests but he is also getting back in time to MC-I and MC-II (1966-72 era)
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The Konica 40mm/1.8 is not particularly great outside the centres wide open. I can't imagine it being particularly good on a high pixel density sensors like m43 ones.

A shameless plug since you are in London, I have got a nice 50mm f1.2 and the Konica 40 in sales
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Originally posted by dorian-grey dorian-grey wrote:

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I'm after a bit of help regarding MD/MC 50-55-58 F1.4 + F1.8 lenses, is any particular version of these worth searching out? I'm mostly interested in wide open capability as I will be adaptering to an OLY Pen EPL-8 and need all the shallow dof i can get
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Oh has anyone got any thoughts about the Konica-Hexanon 40mm 1.8, is it worth getting an adapter for?

I recommend the Konica AR 40mm F1.8 and 50mm F1.8 over the Minoltas. These all vary though. I find Minoltas tend to have poor rendering wide-open. My best Minolta is the oldest, cheapest SR Auto Rokkor-PF 55mm F2 (I haven't tried the F1.8 or F1.9 versions).

The brand new mirrorless primes from China tend to be sharper and have nicer apertures--though they generally lack click detents and aren't labelled accurately. I really like my $49 Fotasy 50mm F1.8 APS-C. I am not as much of a fan of the Kaxinda/Meike/Neewer 50mm F2(.4) though it mostly covers full-frame.

I haven't tried the $25 50mm F1.4 C-mount lenses.

Edited by QuietOC - 09 November 2019 at 16:47
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I love the Minolta MC PG 50/1.4. Beautiful rendering of the out of focus areas.

Rokkorfiles tested the MC and MD 50mm lenses. There are sample threats for most Minolta MC/MD lenses in the other mount subforum and you can find the threads here.

If it is to play, get a cheap adapter. AR lenses are regarded well but somewhat hard to find.
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I've got an MD f/1.4 that works quite well - the 40 Hexanon is quite good (an 80mm portrait pancake on m43?). I rather liked the Rokkor 45 f/2.0 as well.

For the Pentax stuff - the Early K mount standard lenses should be quite interesting. The screw mount Takumars are rather nice (the 55 f/2.0 the pick of the bunch that I have used), with a really nice focus action, but Pentax used Takumar as a name for the budget lenses when they released K, so probably best to steer clear of those or buy at low prices.
 



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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

I love the Minolta MC PG 50/1.4. Beautiful rendering of the out of focus areas.
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This is really a classical Rokkor not to miss out! I also have an older MC F/1.7 55mm and a MD F/1.2 50mm - and I love them, too.

I am also a fan of the Konica AR Hexanon F/1.8 40mm. I think it's an extraordinary little lens with smooth bokeh and a nice rendering overall. The Hexanons are somehow neglected (I do not find them to be particularly rare, at least not in Germany). The best deal is probably the F/3.5 28mm (with a rectangular lenshood) which is now ridiculously cheap. The Hexanon F/1.4 50mm might be seen as an even better choice than the Rokkor PG F/1.4 50mm. A website which so far has not been mentioned (unfortunately only partially in English, e.g. the Konica part is in English) is Artaphot.

So my recommendation is: Get the adapters! You will see that as soon as you have them they will start to attract those lenses that fit them!
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Maybe this video of the Kamlan 50/1.1 might be of interest to you: Red35.
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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

The brand new mirrorless primes from China tend to be sharper and have nicer apertures--though they generally lack click detents and aren't labelled accurately. I really like my $49 Fotasy 50mm F1.8 APS-C. I am not as much of a fan of the Kaxinda/Meike/Neewer 50mm F2(.4) though it mostly covers full-frame.

I like the latest Meike 35mm f1.7. I have found the late MF Pentax lenses from Miranda/etc, to be pretty good wide open, though they may not be fast enough for your Pen. Might be worth trying one of the focal reducers?
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I really like the rendering of my MC Rokkor 58/1.4 and it's a lot smaller than the famous Rokkor 58/1.2 (which is even nicer). But 58 mm might be a tad long on MFD but maybe with a "speedbooster"
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Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

I am also a fan of the Konica AR Hexanon F/1.8 40mm. I think it's an extraordinary little lens with smooth bokeh and a nice rendering overall.


It gets very good write-ups now, but photo magazines in the UK were quite dismissive of it when it was released - it originally came as a standard lens on the FS-1, but rather more common as a standard lens with the Autoreflex TC - a nice little camera who's main limitations were that it had no depth of field preview and only had speeds down to 1/8.

Originally posted by waldo_posth waldo_posth wrote:

The Hexanons are somehow neglected (I do not find them to be particularly rare, at least not in Germany).


A bit like the Minolta SR lenses (only more so), they were neglected for a good while because the register distance made them difficult to adapt to digital mounts before mirrorless.

They had some uncommon focal lengths, but quality was quite nice, possibly the biggest pain in using them adapted is the locking button on the aperture ring and the tendency for them to have full, rather than half stops indented.

There were two ranges of lens quality-wise - the top-flight Hexanons and the budget Hexars... slightly confusing because Konica later used Hexar as a premium badge for their compact Hexar RF and Hexar AF cameras.

Konica was (at one time) the oldest of the Japanses camera makers, they pioneered celuloid film in Japan and were quite innovative - as catch-up brands often have to be... developing the first 1/2000 focal plane shutter (just beating Canon and passing their development work on to Copal), the first automatic exposure TTL SLRs and the first 35mm autofocus camera.

They are also the only company I know of who got out of the SLR camera business twice (but I try not to be bitter).

In Germany, I think the Konicas were sometimes rebranded as Revue?

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Originally posted by Bob J Bob J wrote:

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In Germany, I think the Konicas were sometimes rebranded as Revue?



Yes, my first SLR has been a rebranded Konica Auto-Reflex - a Revue Auto-Reflex. Revue had been the photography brand of a large mail order company, Quelle. The SLR cameras of several makers (Chinon, Cosina, Konica, Mamiya, Pentacon, Petri, Ricoh, Yashica) were sold rebranded as Revue.

There have only been three Hexars for the Konica AR-mount: 28mm, 135mm and 200mm. They are said to be built by Tamron and inferior in quality - so I recommend to stick with the Hexanons.
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You may want to refer to the Phillip Reeve reviews of SR mount Minolta Rokkors on the Sony A7 here:

https://phillipreeve.net/blog/manual-minolta-lens-ratings/

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Evening all.

Thanks for the positive responses from everybody :-) I must say I didn't expect the encouraging opinions about the Hexanon 40 I was only floating it out there as it would 'go' nicely on a m4/3, food for thought eh. I think I might just pick up an adapter to abide the event ;-)

Cheers all!

Al

ps: do have a look at me mate's YT channel. He uses an a7 for his adventures with the old skool lenses, i've nudged him subscribe on here numerous times. I think he needs to discover or have revealed to him the world of the STF :-D

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCza1hvHVZmCh0Bzk3jl5NSw

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