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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 20:59
Not typically mirror, but a great shot Michael!
 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 19:48

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 17:01
I mean wonki as in distorted lines in the image, not in the viewfinder. Perhaps I have to produce a sample to illustrate.

Hardly ever had a problem with black bands but that is probably because here we generally have a shortage of light while you have an abundance.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 16:22
For me too it will be just for that lens.

Paul: I did not say the wonkiness was from silent shutter. The silent shutter results in dark banding at the top of the image when shooting fast shutter speeds. The wonkiness as I understand it is a wiggling, nervous image in the viewfinder when in portrait orientation and it happens to me in loud shutter mode too.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 15:57
Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

Originally posted by woodrim woodrim wrote:

Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

I tried hand held shooting with the Mino AF 500 at 1/320 shutter speed and the movement the IBIS causes on the sensor is such that the image goes extremely wonky. This is in silent mode, perhaps that matters. Any opinions on this?

Tripod works much better, naturally. No complaints on sharpness on these images that were taken over great distance, even as they were taken on my 'travel 3-pod.

Amazing lens, focusing a bit nervous on the LA-EA5, another thing the tripod solves.....


Paul: I do the vast amount of my mirror shooting handheld. I do use a monopod with bigger and heavier lenses. I have noticed some wonkiness when in portrait orientation but not landscape. I stopped using silent more or front shutter-whatever after finding that I was getting dark bands when using high shutter speeds. The birds have gotten used to me and are now not frightened by the shutter clank.

I did briefly use my AF Reflex this past Sunday with the LA-EA4 and suspect I must again check the micro-adjust. I'm not perfectly happy with the focus accuracy. I have not yet checked but wonder if the camera lost the setting I had in it. The last I saw, the LA-EA5 did not support the Reflex on my A7II. I may have to do the MonsterAdapter modification.


So the wonkyness is because of silent shutter. It makes sense.

The LA-EA5 requires latest generation cameras like A7RM4. Even on A7M3 it doesn't work. It's either a new camera or a Monster Mike!


An advantage of the Monster adapter chip with the reflex is you can move the focus point .
With all Sony cameras and adapters your stuck with center spot AF only .

I have the reflex along with an LA-EA5 and a7Riv , but I'm considering modifying my LA-EA4 for that reason ( and just that lens ).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 15:45
Originally posted by woodrim woodrim wrote:

Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

I tried hand held shooting with the Mino AF 500 at 1/320 shutter speed and the movement the IBIS causes on the sensor is such that the image goes extremely wonky. This is in silent mode, perhaps that matters. Any opinions on this?

Tripod works much better, naturally. No complaints on sharpness on these images that were taken over great distance, even as they were taken on my 'travel 3-pod.

Amazing lens, focusing a bit nervous on the LA-EA5, another thing the tripod solves.....


Paul: I do the vast amount of my mirror shooting handheld. I do use a monopod with bigger and heavier lenses. I have noticed some wonkiness when in portrait orientation but not landscape. I stopped using silent more or front shutter-whatever after finding that I was getting dark bands when using high shutter speeds. The birds have gotten used to me and are now not frightened by the shutter clank.

I did briefly use my AF Reflex this past Sunday with the LA-EA4 and suspect I must again check the micro-adjust. I'm not perfectly happy with the focus accuracy. I have not yet checked but wonder if the camera lost the setting I had in it. The last I saw, the LA-EA5 did not support the Reflex on my A7II. I may have to do the MonsterAdapter modification.


So the wonkyness is because of silent shutter. It makes sense.

The LA-EA5 requires latest generation cameras like A7RM4. Even on A7M3 it doesn't work. It's either a new camera or a Monster Mike!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 15:20
Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

I tried hand held shooting with the Mino AF 500 at 1/320 shutter speed and the movement the IBIS causes on the sensor is such that the image goes extremely wonky. This is in silent mode, perhaps that matters. Any opinions on this?

Tripod works much better, naturally. No complaints on sharpness on these images that were taken over great distance, even as they were taken on my 'travel 3-pod.

Amazing lens, focusing a bit nervous on the LA-EA5, another thing the tripod solves.....


Paul: I do the vast amount of my mirror shooting handheld. I do use a monopod with bigger and heavier lenses. I have noticed some wonkiness when in portrait orientation but not landscape. I stopped using silent more or front shutter-whatever after finding that I was getting dark bands when using high shutter speeds. The birds have gotten used to me and are now not frightened by the shutter clank.

I did briefly use my AF Reflex this past Sunday with the LA-EA4 and suspect I must again check the micro-adjust. I'm not perfectly happy with the focus accuracy. I have not yet checked but wonder if the camera lost the setting I had in it. The last I saw, the LA-EA5 did not support the Reflex on my A7II. I may have to do the MonsterAdapter modification.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 09:22
I tried hand held shooting with the Mino AF 500 at 1/320 shutter speed and the movement the IBIS causes on the sensor is such that the image goes extremely wonky. This is in silent mode, perhaps that matters. Any opinions on this?

Tripod works much better, naturally. No complaints on sharpness on these images that were taken over great distance, even as they were taken on my 'travel 3-pod.

Amazing lens, focusing a bit nervous on the LA-EA5, another thing the tripod solves.....

Edited by Snegren - 11 January 2022 at 10:25
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 January 2022 at 09:14
1: Spires

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Minolta 500mm F8 Reflex
Aperture: f/8.0
Exposure Time: 0.003 sec (1/320)
ISO: 400

2: Rooftop

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Minolta 500mm F8 Reflex
Aperture: f/8.0
Exposure Time: 0.003 sec (1/320)
ISO: 400

3: Rooftop

Camera Model: ILCE-7RM4
Lens: Minolta 500mm F8 Reflex
Aperture: f/8.0
Exposure Time: 0.003 sec (1/320)
ISO: 250
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2022 at 21:49
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2022 at 21:39
Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

It appears the Rubinar MC 4.5/300 contains a 1.3x teleconverter in its optical scheme that can be removed (don't know how) to obtain a 3.5/230 Mirror lens with some vignetting on FF. Neat, right. Not that I'm going to try it, the MC Rubinar's go for like 600 Euro.


Where did you learn/see that? I find that very interesting. It would also change the flange distance, I presume.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2022 at 17:57
It appears the Rubinar MC 4.5/300 contains a 1.3x teleconverter in its optical scheme that can be removed (don't know how) to obtain a 3.5/230 Mirror lens with some vignetting on FF. Neat, right. Not that I'm going to try it, the MC Rubinar's go for like 600 Euro.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2022 at 17:49
Baffle modified, re-inserted. I hope all systems are still go, don't have a way of testing it so I'll have to patiently await a VECTIS adapter.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2022 at 15:21
Aha. Undo the 2 screws of the electronic contact assembly, pop out the baffle (screwdriver under the rim). Now a slight problem, the baffle forms the support base for the contacts. Hence, the baffle has to be modified and then put back in the reverse order to remount the contact assembly.

Not a lot of baffle material can be removed, it may help some but not a lot I think.

Edited by Snegren - 10 January 2022 at 15:24
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