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I like the 16-80, 16-105, and 18-135, but they aren't just as sharp as my 16-50 F2.8 especially near 24 mm. The other zooms are sharp enough in the center wide-open. The Vario-Sonnar is very good at 35mm though it only manages F4.5 at that focal length.

Edited by QuietOC - 08 January 2019 at 01:56
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Originally posted by vidhyadharan vidhyadharan wrote:



I have bought and sold lot of lens before..I now regret selling the DT 16-105 long back. Had a very good copy. Used one is now selling for 299GBP at Amazon UK

DT 16-80 vario-sonnar - I have not used this one before. Read the reviews - seems like a good one - Used one is selling for 215GBP. Just worried about the max aperture and indoor capabilities without flash

I was also looking at DT 16-50 2.8. It retails for 240gbp (USED ONE) at Amazon UK

I'll wait for few more days to find a good deal on any of these options


I've all three of those lenses .

The CZ 16-80mm I got to go with my a100 and later used it with , my a580 .
I was always happy with that lens .
Having got an a900 the a580 and 16-80 got little use for a few years .

When I got the a77ii I tried the 16-80 on it and noticed with the lack of contrast that it had developed one of the common problems this lens suffers from .
The balsam between the front element's starts to have a random separation that looks like a fungal problem , I can't remember what the true cause is .
Then it developed the other common problem where the manual focus gearing collapses .

Both these problems seem a case of when , not if , they will happen .
Later made lenses seem to have had metal gearing used rather than plastic , and the front element's don't seem to get afflicted/affected .

What serial number onwards this is the case for , I don't know .

I'd already got the Sony 16-50mm f/2.8 to use with the a580 before I got the a77ii to use that on APS-C and the Minolta 80-210mm APO G F/2.8 on the full frame a900 to have it all covered when on an event .

I find the 16-50mm to be an outstanding lens and highly recommend it .

It's relatively heavy and has a short range , as you would expect , compared to the 16-80 .
I wanted to replace the 16-80 as I miss the range and tried to find out from what serial number a replacement would be a safe bet , with no luck .

Looked at the options and decided on either the Sony 16-105mm or Sony 18-135mm SAM .I've sometimes used a Minolta 24-105mm on the a77ii as I like having the range at the long end and 24mm is quite often wide enough for when I'm walking around in the hill's .
The local LCE had a used 16-105mm in so I went along to give that a try and it's quite good .
So did a swap for it with an unused LA-EA2 and Canon EOS lens . Seemed fair to me !

I've not been out much with it to test if proper , but it seems a good lens .
The 16-50mm lens is the superior lens and you could argue that an image from that on 24mp cropped to the field of view to the same as the 16-105 might be the same or better than with the earlier 16-105mm alone .
The salesman did point this out ( did he not want to sell it ? ) but I prefer to compose the final image in the camera rather than mess about on the computer later .

So to sum up , a walk around lens on APS-C , forget the CZ 16-80 as you don't know how long it will last .
If 16-50mm is fine for you or you need the f/2.8 , get that .

If you need more range , and don't need f/2.8 then get the Sony 16-105mm .



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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2019 at 02:48
I've read reports off broken 16-50 F2.8's, 16-80's (had one), 16-105's and Tamron 17-50's (and 24-105s too.) The 16-80, 16-105, and 24-105 seem to use a similar weak clutch mechanism. My 16-50 isn't very sharp at the long end--it can't replace a longer zoom for me.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2019 at 02:53
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

I like the 16-80, 16-105, and 18-135, but they aren't just as sharp as my 16-50 F2.8 especially near 24 mm. The other zooms are sharp enough in the center wide-open. The Vario-Sonnar is very good at 35mm though it only manages F4.5 at that focal length.


The SAL1650 is a fine sharp environmentally sealed lens for landscapes, building interiors, market stalls and street scenes but it's not so good for flattering portraits, unless of course, you like that bug eyed look.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 January 2019 at 06:24
50mm (75mm) is plenty good for portraits. Especially as people are used to pictures taken with a 24 or 28mm lens on their phones....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote vidhyadharan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 January 2019 at 22:16
Thanks Guys....I'm leaning more towards 16-50 2.8 too because of it's weather seal feature and image quality...searching the web for good bargain...Until then, I'll live with my kit lens - :-)

Between, I got myself a Tokina 11-16 2.8...Took just some random shots....Planning to go out this weekend and try it out... :-)
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