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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2020 at 15:14
oh yeah ... I'd never use a zoom to do a prime day

I'd get a Ricoh GR but when is day 18.5?

I do have 14/20/25 primes at the mo ... but they are in m43 so those would be equally cheating

now, a simple question, could someone explain why the perfectly good 'NEX' brand was halted and changed to 6000000?

(if Sony made some lovely APS primes I would have considered the format but, even here, I think Fujifilm owns APS-mirrorless #SorryNotSorry )
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 June 2020 at 15:42
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:


I'd get a Ricoh GR but when is day 18.5?
Rounding is officially allowed, so it's January 19

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:


I do have 14/20/25 primes at the mo ... but they are in m43 so those would be equally cheating
The rules say: We do allow the posting of occasional (ie not regular and no more than one or two posts in a week, consisting preferably a maximum of four shots) non-Alpha shots from ex-members or members running two systems., so why not post a few?

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

now, a simple question, could someone explain why the perfectly good 'NEX' brand was halted and changed to 6000000?
A very good question, but the horse's mouth on the answer is silent

Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

(if Sony made some lovely APS primes I would have considered the format but, even here, I think Fujifilm owns APS-mirrorless #SorryNotSorry )
Maybe, maybe not. If you also want to use FF having your lenses usable on both sensor size bodies is worth a lot (certainly for me). Only Sony, Leica and Nikon currently offer that. Fuji also has cropped MF bodies (33x44 mm) but they use a different mount than their APS-C bodies.
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I do plan to lurk around and see how the challenges go ... but am also planning a mini 365 (just three month version Jul/Aug/Sep) to get familiar with my little RX100.

Did I mention it has a Zeiss written on it.

Tempted to do some comparison shoot with my 14/20/25 and 12-60mm. Those are 28, 40, 50, 24-120mm views for those unfamiliar with m43. But might just restrict to the RX100 and not even carry a bag!

My biggest moan/complaint about being part of the switch from film to digital back in 2005 (for me) was the use of adapted and cropped lenses. It is one of the things that drew me to m43 - all the lenses were made to measure for that (little) sensor. Same too Fuji (APS).

I personally would have liked Sony to have a NEX mount and a E mount and developed them side-by-side. Having spent a chunk of time with my KM 7D and then Nikon with 50mm lenses (75-ish view-ish) I was screaming inside for some GOOD native optics. Sure telephoto lenses can be nicer longer. But wides designed for FX are in a weird zone when cropped.

Sony do seem to be putting a lot of effort into the A7 and the lenses. And I can see how popular the NEX bodies are too. But it looks like 80% of the lens effort is in full-frame lenses. With a small NEX body and a big E lens it looks temporary and adaption. It kept me away from considering the NEX/a600000 bodies.

I've used full-frame digital and love it, but price and size isn't for me at the moment.

Do wonder if Sony can keep up with FX, APS, in dSLR and mirrorless. Four mounts plus their RX0/10/100 and RX1 ... at some point they might have to drop something?

Same too Canon and Nikon. I like that Canon have made an R mount and an M mount - but while they've been busy with M bodies but not lenses (too few primes). Doubtless that is where the business/volume is, but not much for a keen enthusiast to get into. Wonder if Canon or Nikon will be first to stop there APS dSLR lines? Maybe just keep their top APS dSLR for wildlife shooters but push snappers to mirrorless?

Fuji used to troll m43 with their 'not very accurate' scale marketing of APS vs m43 sensor size ... and then made their own microMediumFormat! And called it medium format. Shameful
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I've also flirted with Olympus and Nikon - and a bit of Zeiss...
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@Bob ... that looks like a Contax G2

I did 'the wrong thing' when I had that. Was a trip of a life-time to China. In the days before eBay, I traded all of my camera gear for a brand new Contax G2 and the three lenses (28, 45, and 90 I think). And the first shots I fired were during that 10-day trip.

Rule: never ever use a new, unchecked, piece of camera gear on an important shoot.

That is pretty much the only photo rule I tend to agree with.

It was fine of course. But was a silly thing to do.

Thanks for the reminder!

EDIT - darn it, that means I've had Zeiss before. They were super little lenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Bob J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 June 2020 at 19:46
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:


EDIT - darn it, that means I've had Zeiss before. They were super little lenses.


You must have had just about everything over the years! Lots of us have lenses that "used to be dCap's", but it is hardly surprising, as you did go through a few...

(I still have your Minolta 50 macro, that went to Maffe after you..)
 



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If that is the 50/3.5 macro - that was a cracker - one of my fave photos (perhaps two) were shot with that!

There aren't many lenses that really registered with me: Min 200/2.8 (might have been Maffe's?) and the 50/3.5 were my gems. Tamron 90/2.8 (in KM fit too). Voigtlander 40/2 in Nikon F. Nikkor 50/1.2. Off the top would probably be my top 5 and I can remember specific images that I could ID those lenses from.

Fond of some others but couldn't pick out specific photos from them.

I recently almost decided to get every fujifilm lens. It made sense while I was thinking about it. Well, just the primes between 14-90. Thought about getting a used one every 3 months, using it for three months, making a gallery of samples and then moving on to the next one. Wouldn't take too long.
So, not a review just a bunch of samples.

Actually I almost did that twice. In a way I'm quite pleased that I didn't enjoy the fuji cameras so I stopped at just the 16/2.8 and 35/2 which will see eBay soon. Super idea and I'm glad I've tried fujifilm now.
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Hi, just joined up. Found the site while looking for info on Minolta A mounts. I shoot mainly Panasonic G9 and GX9, also have a Pentax K1000 and My dad's old Minolta SRT 101.

The Maxxum 7000 first version was my last film camera "back in the day". Started thinking about something just to play with and ended up with a Sony A700 so I could revisit some of those Maxxum lenses. Thinking if I like the Sony I may end up moving into something newer.   
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Originally posted by Brownie Brownie wrote:

Hi, just joined up. Found the site while looking for info on Minolta A mounts. I shoot mainly Panasonic G9 and GX9, also have a Pentax K1000 and My dad's old Minolta SRT 101.

The Maxxum 7000 first version was my last film camera "back in the day". Started thinking about something just to play with and ended up with a Sony A700 so I could revisit some of those Maxxum lenses. Thinking if I like the Sony I may end up moving into something newer.   


Hello and Welcome. The Panasonic G9 is a nice piece of kit. As for the A700, I have two and still enjoy using them. For JPEG's the Sony processor is a little heavy handed, It tends to over lighten and flatten tones. The RAW files are nice to work with. If you're thinking about a hot shoe / off camera flash I would recommend the HVL-F43AM. Considering the hot shoe hokey pokey you need to do to with the older Minolta / Sony speed lights on the A700 for going off camera, it's worth it. The Minolta AF 24-85mm or 24-105mm balance nicely on it. That said, as much as i personally dislike the ergonomics of the Sony DT 16-50 f/2.8 SSM, it probably gets the most out of the camera, unless you happen to have a bag full of Minolta primes.   

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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Hello and Welcome. The Panasonic G9 is a nice piece of kit. As for the A700, I have two and still enjoy using them. For JPEG's the Sony processor is a little heavy handed, It tends to over lighten and flatten tones. The RAW files are nice to work with. If you're thinking about a hot shoe / off camera flash I would recommend the HVL-F43AM. Considering the hot shoe hokey pokey you need to do to with the older Minolta / Sony speed lights on the A700 for going off camera, it's worth it. The Minolta AF 24-85mm or 24-105mm balance nicely on it. That said, as much as i personally dislike the ergonomics of the Sony DT 16-50 f/2.8 SSM, it probably gets the most out of the camera, unless you happen to have a bag full of Minolta primes.   


Thanks for the welcome! I'll file the flash recommendation for future use. As for lenses, pretty common stuff. I bought a 28-105 with the camera, then bought a (really pristine) Maxxum 7000i off of CL with a 50/1.7 and a cheapie 70-210. Ordered a 18-55 and 100-300 from KEH to round it out. I am trying to stick with all FF lenses so if I ever make the swap I can start with just a body, then add higher graded lenses as I go. Although, I am pleasantly surprised with the 28-105 for the few shots I've made with it.

I do want to find a 24 2.8 at some point, or something faster/wider than what I have. I am very used to crop sensors and sorting FOV. Due to my history with 35mm I still think in terms of equivalence when deciding on a lens. That may drive some folks nuts, but it works for me!
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Welcome on board Brownie! Looking forward to see some of your work here !
I have used the A700 for quite a while. Sold it, but it was a nice camera.
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Originally posted by Fred_S Fred_S wrote:


Beware the GAS now you're a member here

Always a danger
Trying to stick with full frame lenses on an APS-C camera while going for a wide view can get expensive, the Minolta AF 17-35mm F/3.5 G jumps to mind. 24mm on the a700 is a nice angle and will suffice for many and the Minolta AF 24mmf/2.8 is a nice lens. Looking forward to your posts, Happy shooting.
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Welcome to Dyxum, @Brownie, and good to see some of your impressive images appearing in the Forum here.

I'd certainly endorse the recommendation to stick with FF lenses. There's some magnificent a-mount glass that can be acquired at reasonable prices now that e-mount has taken off big time.

And with the newly announced LA-EA5 adaptor, that a-mount glass can be transitioned to e-mount bodies when/if anyone's a-mount cameras face extinction.
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Welcome to Dyxum Brownie.

Originally posted by Brownie Brownie wrote:


Thanks for the welcome! I'll file the flash recommendation for future use. As for lenses, pretty common stuff. I bought a 28-105 with the camera, then bought a (really pristine) Maxxum 7000i off of CL with a 50/1.7 and a cheapie 70-210. Ordered a 18-55 and 100-300 from KEH to round it out. I am trying to stick with all FF lenses so if I ever make the swap I can start with just a body, then add higher graded lenses as I go. Although, I am pleasantly surprised with the 28-105 for the few shots I've made with it.

I do want to find a 24 2.8 at some point, or something faster/wider than what I have. I am very used to crop sensors and sorting FOV. Due to my history with 35mm I still think in terms of equivalence when deciding on a lens. That may drive some folks nuts, but it works for me!


The 18-55 is, of course, an APS lens, but it makes a lot of sense for a low cost setup based on the A700, you won't get that wide with a FF lens in that price bracket. The DT 16-50mm f2.8 SSM is a class or two better and well worth the current used price, but it is still APS and several times the price of an 18-55.

The 28-105 is a nice lens, the cheapie 70-210 & 100-300 less so (unless the 70-210 is a beercan), but can still take nice shots. The 24mm is a very nice prime and will be great on APS or FF as will the 50/1.7 (are you planning to shoot film with the 7000i?).

If you do get a FF digital body (the A850 & A900 are not so expensive these days) you will still be able to use APS lenses, the cameras will detect them and crop to APS, obviously, you lose pixels, but you will still have more than the A700.
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