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    Posted: 24 August 2013 at 08:07
Sony Alpha Rumours has been republishing links from the Japanese site digicame-info.com about the forthcoming A- or ILC-3000 camera. The first picture is here.

We see an E-mount lens on an SLT-styled body apparently with no mirror, translucent or otherwise. It looks the job and presumably competes with the new Canon 'micro' SLR, the 100D/SL1. The 3000 designation in the name suggests an entry-level camera and rumours say the camera has only contrast detect AF, but even so the future direction of the A-mount will come under closer scrutiny now.
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No it won't

Not yet anyway.

As soon as they get decent af then the only difference between a and e mounts will be an adapter. At which point it really doesn't matter anymore.
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I think.....

E-Mount will be the APS-C track

A-Mount will be the FF track

To make it easy to switch, deliver the 3000 with a A2E-adapter ;-)
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Compelling: except that there are fairly strong rumours that a FF NEX/E-mount camera is in the works, for 2014.
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...and ff e-mount video cameras are already a available.
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Originally posted by Stanbury Stanbury wrote:

Compelling: except that there are fairly strong rumours that a FF NEX/E-mount camera is in the works, for 2014.


This is true but the advantages of the smaller registration distance run out once you get to 50mm - and for full-frame there will be corner darkening problems with some wide-angles with the rear element close to the sensor - so while the short-registration E-mount does have advantages in some situations, the longer registration at least holds its own in others and might be seen to have advantages in being wider and a little more robust.

E-mount is very good for MF lenses used with adapters, but once the mirror is gone even non-retrofocus lenses can be used on the bigger A-mount.

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That's only true if you're designing a lens to take advantage of the short registration distance (because you want a short lens).

You can of course design a lens with the rear element as far away from the sensor as you like. In no way is a longer registration distance any kind of advantage.
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Originally posted by 5thElefant 5thElefant wrote:

You can of course design a lens with the rear element as far away from the sensor as you like. In no way is a longer registration distance any kind of advantage.

I agree.

E-mount is like the AB blood group: E-mount cameras can use lenses (E, A, F, EF, etc) from any other group, whereas no other mount (A, F, EF, etc) can use E-mount lenses.

As you mentioned above; you have to design an E-mount lens to have a registration distance of 18 mm or larger, but you have to manufacture it to have a flange to sensor distance of 18 mm.
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I'm pretty excited about this, although I don't think I will buy this model. I am happy that Sony listened to people who've said they want an E-mount with a larger body style similar to a DSLR, rather than something more compact. Waiting to see what Sony can do with main sensor PDAF, and would probably want a more high end model like a 7 or 9 series, 5 if it has the right features.

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