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Post Options Post Options   Quote keith_h Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 January 2019 at 13:43
I've dumped Lightroom in favour of ON1. A shame since I have been using it since it was Raw Shooter, but I don't want to participate in their subscription payment model.

Turns out ON1 2019 is a much better mousetrap. Image quality is good, workflow much better than LR. Speed is fine. I like it a lot. And it pulled all my images in from the LR catalog.   

It doesn't do dual screens just yet., I can live with that for now.

 



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I finally made the conversion. It was time for a new mac so I waited until I got the new mac setup before I downloaded On1 2019.
I'm starting a new year with a new iMac and new library using On1 2019 as a stand alone processor.

As for my aperture library: I ended up purchasing an app called Aperture Exporter. AE creates a library with the same file structure you have set up in aperture. You can select photo's you have rated with one to five stars to be duplicated in either JPEG or TIFF with all edits made and metadata. It's a really nice app. The best way to keep an organized library and save all the time you spent editing photo's in aperture. It gets my highest recommendation for anyone who wants to leave aperture and has a library they want to preserve.

Fortunately, I have enough room on my new mac to keep aperture and its library for the time being. I will be moving it to an external drive as soon as I decide where I want to keep things.

My first impression of On1 2019 is that the learning curve is going to take a while. Coming from aperture, On1 seems to be more complex with more options available to the user. I've done some editing and I am pleased with the results so far. But there's so much more possible once I figure how to take advantage of the masking and layering tools.

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Hello,
I was looking for info on Luminar when I came across this post;
I really "Botched" my Grand Canyon shoot this fall, and to use a photographic term, the photos came out Crummy. If the day were just another day I would have deleted them and moved on but it was spectacular there and I want the photos. I've never been much on editing so I've only used Apples "Photos", obviously inadequate for the task of recovering them.

This post is the1st time I've ever heard of On 1. I have tried DoX's trial offer and Luminar's trial and now I've dl On 1 2019.
I've been amazed at how much these app's can recover. Looks to me almost completely. The editing results for the 3 look to me pretty equal. DoX does pretty well w eliminating grain when you have to edit to an extreme. Luminar seems invested wholly in filters. I've never used filters because Apples in house filters are so useless but Luminar's seem very intuitive and rather easy to use. It is possible to go deep into their filters and get totally lost! My computer did freeze up a couple of times while using it

I have my Mac mini connected into my 50" wide screen and do my internet, operating system and regular TV on this set up, much of it at night from my bed, wirelessly.
Right now I'm using their On 1 2019 trial. They seem to be the most aggressive w their marketing and offered me $30 off if I purchase now. I'm allergic to paid subscriptions and never will do photoshop because I bought a new lens and there was a free offer to use Elements. I signed up for the free offer and got billed for a subscription which they wouldn't let me out of till I screamed was going to file w every consumer agency and the CEO of Adobe

I seem to be getting into a space I never wanted to go into. I feel like I'm in more of a Purist camp. My idea of photography is the camera shutter and not the computer in a dark room. A beautiful unretouched photo to me is what photography is about. My main idol is probably Ansel Adams, hence all my time at Yosemite. I know he was well versed in filters and darkroom techniques

I admire very much the wizards of pp and wish I could do that. To me the more pristine a beautiful photo is the more valuable and more true to photography.______But thats just me!   
Any thoughts any suggestions   
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Originally posted by Coast Coast wrote:


I seem to be getting into a space I never wanted to go into. I feel like I'm in more of a Purist camp. My idea of photography is the camera shutter and not the computer in a dark room. A beautiful unretouched photo to me is what photography is about. My main idol is probably Ansel Adams, hence all my time at Yosemite. I know he was well versed in filters and darkroom techniques

I admire very much the wizards of pp and wish I could do that. To me the more pristine a beautiful photo is the more valuable and more true to photography.______But thats just me!   
Any thoughts any suggestions   


Welcome to the ever increasingly development of digital imaging technology.
The advancements just keep coming faster and faster. It's like the technology feeds on itself and just keeps accelerating.

I like to antiquate myself too and think more out of camera with less post processing. Unfortunately it doesn't quite work out that way.

Working my photo's in apple aperture for as long as I did made it that much harder to learn a new photo editor.

Now a days presets, effects and filters are just the norm. I think all editors still allow you to do your basic edits. If you want to be a purist then apple photo's should be plenty good.

I was surprised to see the advancements in photo's when I got my new iMac. My old iMac would only run El Capitan because of it's dual core processor and the photo's toolbox was very limited.
With my new iMac running Mojave, the toolbox within photo's has gotten bigger and covers about 75% of all editing requirements I use. The one thing that's missing and I must have is a way to do local adjustments, and unfortunatly photo's still lacks that.

With On1 I find there's a big learning curve, especially if your coming from aperture, iPhoto's or apple photo's. There's the basic "develop" tab to do your basic edits. Then you can go into the "effects" tab to further enhance your photo's if you choose. The effects options look like edits that someone else has already made and kind of looks like a preset. You can add effects to your basic "develop" edits if you choose. On the left side of the edit window there are some additional options like cropping, local brushes, masking, a text tool and refine brush to name a few.

Yeah, it can be confusing.

If you want to avoid all this stuff and stay in the purist camp. I would suggest that you consider apple photo's.
I will say that I feel that apple photo's handles the basic editing better then on1 does, It just doesn't have all the tools that on1 has.

Good luck with your search.



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Hi, I saw the light and am moving in its direction. I went and bought On1 2019, for mac, w the $30 discount, but right now, not surprising, I find myself in a dark room. On1 doesn't seem to have a workflow w Apple photos. Is that true? Ideally, I want to migrate my Apple catalogue onto On1 and work at it there.
Any suggestions?
thanks_______Joseph
I have watched the video's


On my Luminar 3, Photos shows up in the left column and is a fully connected workflow

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Hi Joseph,

Iīm not an expert using ON1 2019 but I discovered a film which explains how to use ON1 2019 as a plug-in for Apple Photos. May be thatīs what you are looking for: Using Photo Raw as aplug-in
 



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Thanks Robbie, I think I just did an On1 update that had photos plug in
appreciate it much👍
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Just as an aside I was looking at some of the tutorials by Matt Koslowski?? who seems to be their main guru so to speak. Anyway looking at the EXIF details in the background it appears he's a Sony shooter using a A7RM3 with a variety of choice lenses. Worthy of more Dyxum support perhaps?
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Originally posted by Brandy Brandy wrote:


Just as an aside I was looking at some of the tutorials by Matt Koslowski?? who seems to be their main guru so to speak. Anyway looking at the EXIF details in the background it appears he's a Sony shooter using a A7RM3 with a variety of choice lenses. Worthy of more Dyxum support perhaps?


Matt was one of their instructors a couple years ago. Now he works independently and comes back as a guest instructor and has courses for sale to On1 Photo Raw users. The main On1 instructors are Dan Harlacher and Hudson Henry. They have other guest instructors like Blake Rudis, Colby Brown, Brian Matiash, and more. and some of them are indeed Sony shooters or Artisans.

As I've pointed out before, On1 is a photographer oriented company and they take a lot of input from their customers on making improvements -- very approachable -- unlike Adobe!

As for Sony shooters, I just returned from a weekend Winter Steam Photo Shoot with the Nevada Norther RR. When I did the same shoot 3 years ago, I was the only one shooting with Sony gear. This time, roughly 1/3 of those there were shooting Sony, mostly with the A7III and A7RIII and G master lenses. Very interesting the progress that Sony has made!

For myself, I've never shot with a better camera for railroad photography than my A7III I use the lock on expanded flexible spot AF and it does not miss focus ever! Granted, these are not F1 Grand Prix cars!
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