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Post Options Post Options   Quote waldo_posth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 June 2021 at 22:16
Sorry Josef, no disagreement intended.

The snowpack has been great and will fill the (now privatized) water banks, e.g. of Kern County. I just wanted to point to the type of agriculture in California which over decades has depleted groundwater resources - so that lakes vanished completely (Tulare) or have been suffering from a protracted process of drying (Salton Sea). Depletion of groundwater for irrigation has led to a sinking ground (measured no longer in inches but in feet) in the San Joaquin valley.
The profit from the crop of one pistachio tree is about $140 - the biggest farmer makes 1 billion $ per year just with pistachios. So we should see it positively - the economy is flourishing, but I doubt whether it can be sustained that way.
I do not know where the water from Oroville is going to. It would certainly be interesting to learn about that.

I enjoyed reading this article by Mark Arax which contains an excellent photographic documentation as well.

Edited by waldo_posth - 09 June 2021 at 22:19
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As a Southern California resident, I can confirm that this was another very, very, dry winter. We live adjacent to some open space. In normal years the natural vegetation responds to rain events with an explosion of growth beginning around February, as do the weeds in our yards. None of that happened this winter.

Then in May, when the growth typically dies off, the fire departments mandate clearing of brush surrounding neighborhoods like ours. But this year when the crews arrived there was essentially nothing to clear. The ground is barren.

The story for the rest of California was better, but still far below normal:

https://ggweather.com/seasonal_rain.htm

Since I don't live in Arizona I don't normally track what happens there. However, I came across this article, which says the last monsoon season there was the driest ever:

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/arizona-weather/2021/06/08/equal-chances-above-near-below-average-rainfall-2021-monsoon-season/7605920002/

Sure, droughts eventually end ... but during the years when they persist, things can get pretty dire. And oftentimes when the rains return they bring too much and present the opposite problem.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote waldo_posth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 June 2021 at 12:08
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

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Sure, droughts eventually end ... but during the years when they persist, things can get pretty dire. And oftentimes when the rains return they bring too much and present the opposite problem.


Indeed - as described here.
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