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    Posted: 14 April 2019 at 07:46
Flickr Pro users would be aware that as part of a new arrangement they are able to avail themselves of a limited copyright protection service via Pixsy.

I had a quick look and it was very interesting to see that quite a number of my posted images have been taken up by third party posters in various locations and languages.

Also that Pixsy identified quite a few of my images as being almost the same as similar third party images on the web, obviously taken by like-minded photographers at the same sites. This category was easily dealt with by my identifying them as not being my images.

Of the ones that were mine and being used without my knowledge or consent, I referred them to Pixsy for action and in every case they responded saying that based on their experience any legal follow up was futile. The best they could offer was to issue a take down notice.

Here's a typical reply:
"Dear Joe,
Thank you for your submission to Pixsy's Case Resolution Services.
Our Case Management Team identified the site you submitted as a spam or scraper site.
Original Image
For reference, here are the case submission details:
Case number: 002-066775
Infringement URL: http://www.bmsitsolutions.net/picture-dome-of-the-rock-western-wall-mount-zion
Image Title: "The Dome viewed through a Qanatir, Jerusalem"

"Scraper" sites aggregate pictures, articles and other copyrighted material from all over the web. Many of these sites do not host the images themselves--they hotlink from third parties-- and are often operated by persons or entities outside Pixsys current coverage area. For these reasons, they are extremely difficult to track down and hold accountable.

Given the circumstances, the likelihood of obtaining a license fee payment in this situation is very low and we are unable to accept your case.

We understand that seeing your work used without authorization is frustrating, and we want to do everything we can to help. If youd like your image removed from the infringing web page, we recommend sending a DMCA takedown request to the website host.

We look forward to continuing to fight image theft together, and as always, are willing and ready to review every submission you send our way.

All the best,
Pixsy Case Management Team"

And a second type of response:
"Dear Joe,
Thank you for your submission to Pixsy's Case Resolution Services.

We have reviewed your case against the criteria set by our Legal Partner in France, and your case does not meet the firm's current requirements. This evaluation usually occurs when our Legal Partner's past experiences with similar cases indicates that a case of this type would have a low likelihood of reaching a sufficient settlement to cover legal fees incurred through the process. For this reason, we are unable to proceed with this case in our Legal Resolution Program at this time.

Original Image
For reference, here are the case submission details:

Case number: 002-066764
Infringement URL: https://www.tresorsdumonde.fr/safed/
Image Title: "Stepped street, Safed"

What steps can you take next?

You may choose to pursue the matter independently by sending out a license fee request. More information, including other courses of action are available in our Pixsy Academy article:

What to do when your image gets stolen and used online.

Please let us know if you have any questions. We appreciate your understanding and look forward to working with you again in the future.

All the best,
Pixsy Case Management Team"

So, in a nutshell, not much joy.
It does remind me of a comment from a pro photographer friend who basically said once you post an image on the web, it's out there and very difficult to fully protect.

It's why for a number of years at the start I was a 'lurker' at Dyxum because I didn't want to post images on Flickr in the public domain as a means of linking them as posts here.

My first on-line posting site was the now defunct "Photo Art Gallery", a curated site based in Sydney, where images posted were visible with a watermark overlay, and available for licensed use or sale where the watermark would of course be removed for the purchaser.

Anyway, since dipping my toe in the Flickr pond quite a few years back, I've fully embraced it, am happy to share them on line, be able to link my images to Dyxum posts, and over the years I have actually managed to sell the odd licence to publish as well as to give my consent to use in print or electronically to academic and not for profit publishers.

Sorry for the long post, but hopefully of interest and worthwhile...


Edited by Jozioau - 14 April 2019 at 07:49
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2019 at 09:22
Can you not post low-res images and offer full ones for a small fee? I ask in complete ignorance ...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2019 at 09:50
It makes sense the legal costs are higher then the amount of money you would get from persueing this. But still.

I am wondering of this deal also applies to Smugmug users.... It is the same company after all.

Thanks for sharing!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2019 at 13:56
Joe, have you considered disabling downloading?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2019 at 14:08
I must admit my images are there purely for sharing on here - I think only a handful are available to a wider audience so I don't believe this impacts me - yet.

Good information though and thanks for sharing your experiences to date, Joe.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2019 at 19:13
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Can you not post low-res images and offer full ones for a small fee? I ask in complete ignorance ...


The sites linked don't need or want hi-res images, they are pure click-bait - scouring the web for images on a subject so they can present themselves as some sort of focal point for that subject with absolutely no original content. They are an absolute menace that fill search results with utterly useless hits. All they want is people to open their page so they can profit from adverts on it.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Maccroft Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 April 2019 at 19:51
Another of the Pro perks that is not available to people who pay monthly. As only available to annual subscribers.
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