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    Posted: 16 August 2018 at 02:20
I just finished doing some official portraits today.
I used my a77ii, the 85mm f1.4G, a Vello battery grip and the Sony HVL-58AM.
Exposure was set manually, and I focused manually. The combination of the bright lens, focus peaking and live view made it easy- and straightforward to get the compositions I wanted. In short, I didn't have to 'settle' on an AF sensor point. I could get exactly what I wanted. The shots pleased me and the client.
(I had pondered using the a7R, but the ergonomics of the a77ii won out in the end).

About 10 years ago I'd have been trying to use an a100. Manual focusing with that was so much harder. I'm not sure I'd have had the confidence to trust manual focus for a paid gig with that camera.
Focus peaking has changed things. Live view has changed things. It's nice being able to just concentrate now on the composition and not worry I'm making crucial focusing mistakes.
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Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:


About 10 years ago I'd have been trying to use an a100. Manual focusing with that was so much harder. I'm not sure I'd have had the confidence to trust manual focus for a paid gig with that camera.
Focus peaking has changed things. Live view has changed things. It's nice being able to just concentrate now on the composition and not worry I'm making crucial focusing mistakes.

When I want to manually focus with OVF, I usually carry my Minolta Angle VF VN . It helps a lot with its 2x magnification. However, I still prefer the liveview and focus-peaking in my SLT bodies, too.
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Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:


Focus peaking has changed things. Live view has changed things.


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Eye AF and full AF point coverage are the big game changers for me although manual focus with automatic magnification and other help tools have become a lot easier as well.
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Originally posted by beautiophile beautiophile wrote:

Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:


About 10 years ago I'd have been trying to use an a100. Manual focusing with that was so much harder. ...

When I want to manually focus with OVF, I usually carry my Minolta Angle VF VN . It helps a lot with its 2x magnification. However, I still prefer the liveview and focus-peaking in my SLT bodies, too.


I did use an angle-finder with my a900 for landscape photos. And at least its own viewfinder was a superb tool for manual focus. Still, there's something reassuring about seeing the focus peaking edges form on say, someone's eye when manually focusing now.
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Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:

Originally posted by beautiophile beautiophile wrote:

Originally posted by wetapunga wetapunga wrote:


About 10 years ago I'd have been trying to use an a100. Manual focusing with that was so much harder. ...

When I want to manually focus with OVF, I usually carry my Minolta Angle VF VN . It helps a lot with its 2x magnification. However, I still prefer the liveview and focus-peaking in my SLT bodies, too.


I did use an angle-finder with my a900 for landscape photos. And at least its own viewfinder was a superb tool for manual focus. Still, there's something reassuring about seeing the focus peaking edges form on say, someone's eye when manually focusing now.


This is intetesting, I found that the a900 was nearly impossible to manual focus. I had it for nearly a decade with the M-screen and a magnifying angle finder.
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I will need to try with focus peaking again, I remember it was not too accurate with my NEX5n, may be recent releases are more reliable.

I am using A7ii for portraits and I manual focus 85% of the time. I love the MF-assist mangify, if the focus peaking is accurate, that would be awesome
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Read this by Jim Kasson:
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Originally posted by coyote1086 coyote1086 wrote:

I will need to try with focus peaking again, I remember it was not too accurate with my NEX5n, may be recent releases are more reliable.

I am using A7ii for portraits and I manual focus 85% of the time. I love the MF-assist mangify, if the focus peaking is accurate, that would be awesome


I wasnít impressed with my NEX-5ís focus peaking.
With the a77ii itís pretty good. I nailed every shot yesterday and had little room for error with a narrow DOF.
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If you think focus magnification is handy try eye af. Most decent Sony lenses get the eyes razor sharp even wide open 28 out of every 30 shots and thatís with the rii. Thatís my personal experience. I hear the riii a7iii and a9 are even better.
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Originally posted by C_N_RED_AGAIN C_N_RED_AGAIN wrote:

If you think focus magnification is handy try eye af. Most decent Sony lenses get the eyes razor sharp even wide open 28 out of every 30 shots and thatís with the rii. Thatís my personal experience. I hear the riii a7iii and a9 are even better.


Too bad I only have a7ii, it seems a hit and miss with mine.
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Originally posted by coyote1086 coyote1086 wrote:

Originally posted by C_N_RED_AGAIN C_N_RED_AGAIN wrote:

If you think focus magnification is handy try eye af. Most decent Sony lenses get the eyes razor sharp even wide open 28 out of every 30 shots and thatís with the rii. Thatís my personal experience. I hear the riii a7iii and a9 are even better.


Too bad I only have a7ii, it seems a hit and miss with mine.
it is possible that youíre more critical. People differ on these things. Also, the lens used might make a difference as do the circumstances. Having said that, r2 is considered to be better then the 2 in this regard. I am wondering how the A99m2 behaves in comparison - I guess somewhere in between.
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The a7ii's AF I think is inferior compare to the 7rii , the A99ii is newer and the flagship of A mount, it should have a better AF mechanism similar to a7rii.

Fortunately, the MF routine seems working for me and the models are not complaining, and I got more sharp shots.
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Not to dissuade you from what works but I would recommend you rent the a7iii for a day or two and try out the eye af of that camera. I'm betting you will find it easy extremely fast and incredibly convenient. I believe it will speed up your workflow.
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