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    Posted: 27 April 2014 at 14:12
Hello everybody.
Someday ago I made shots of a lady and I need opinions about their pp.
I'll start with this one

Don't you think it's over edited?
I'd rather go for more natural look but this one looks so good imo.
I'm using LR for pp if that's helpful for you
Looking forward for your comments.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dopol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2014 at 15:42
It's a lovely lady, but there are some things I see in the rest of the shot

While editing (it seems to me) you concentrated on her and that caused some problems to the rest of the picture. The editing added some feeling of a picture of a nice girl glued on some background


My remarks then would be
- cut of a part of the left to put her in RoT position. The information lost there didn't add anyway
- Bring down the lights in the background, There are many and each of them screams for attention.
- There are some dark areas in the background(on the other hand) that can do with some lightening.

Nothing wrong with the girl (or your editing of her),nothing wrong with the picture as a hole (that can't be fixed), It just need a little more balance.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote dino Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2014 at 16:10
Thank you for your advice.
I cropped it a little bit like you said but it might be not enough because I want it to stay wide.
Lights in background can't be darker because some of them are too bright.
Maybe I could fix this with PS but I don't really like working with it with my photos.
Also I brightened black parts.
So here's the result.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dopol Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 April 2014 at 17:16
I think it improved. The portrait is more a part of the photo this way.

But still . . .
If you would use a radial filter on the face, reverse it and make the background a bit darker. Don't know for sure, but it seems to me . . .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote romke Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2014 at 07:54
whether the look is natural or not may be open for debate. to me the first image looks somewhat more natural, in the second one sharpness seems to be brought down that much that the face starts to look "unnatural", although that may be the generally accepted preferred way of rendering females...

the image contains a few aspects that are difficult if not impossible to correct in PP. some elements in the background are blown out and thus cannot easily be made darker, there also is a ugly internal reflection of the lens visible beneath the right ear of the girl.

a shooting situation like this usually calls for a subtle combination of setting the exposure for the ambient light (and thus somewhat or quite a bit darker), and then lightening the face with a suitably placed fill flash (maybe combined with a reflector to reduce the contrast across the face). that way you get more or less precise control on the exposure of the front and the background, see these examples.

what really disturbs me in both images is that the left shoulder is much sharper then the face and the right shoulder. that may be due to a wide aperture, but i think it here is somewhat exaggerated. the very fact that the left shoulder is sharp makes the face look rather plasticky imo.

all in all i would say it will be hard to improve this image in PP, because there are a few shortcomings in the original that call for "extensive surgery". personally i would not even try to make corrections, it would be a lot less work to take some new shots.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote maewpa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 April 2014 at 12:07
The colours of this make me feel good. In the end maybe that and an attractive woman are enough for people to like it. My initial view was that you've done a decent job with PP in a certain style. Maybe not a style I like, but hey, that's why the pretty girls don't come to me to get their pictures taken!

I think Domien makes a very good observation about working on her rather than the whole picture - so easy to do that. However, if you want to stay wide and want all that background in, then maybe go back to the beginning and work on her a lot less? You could blur the shoulder a bit to avoid that distraction. Eyes and that area must be the sharpest thing in this photo.

It would be interesting to see her "naked" face because I think it is very difficult to comment in how good your PP is without that. To me the skin is a step too far, but others should disagree.

I am concerned about the lens-earring and flare smear (I guess it is flare?) on her chin. Do you like these? I don't, but I don't assume you should feel the same.





Edited by maewpa - 28 April 2014 at 12:13
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I think I'd look at a much tighter crop to get rid of the OoF lights to the left entirely and do a little bit of clone/clean-up on the chin (I'm less fussed about the ear-ring). While I like the OoF bits, they do distract from the portrait and make her eyes (which are very good), look dark in comparison.
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