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    Posted: 14 May 2019 at 03:46
Hi

I am happy with my A mount cameras and have found myself looking increasingly at e-mount as the next camera model. My experience with A6300 and Minolta glass and La-EA4 adaptor has been disappointing to say the least. Native e-mount primes are out of the budget.

Are there bird togs out there using adapted glass? If so, what is your set up? What is your experience with AF?
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My experiences with α7R series and adapted A-mount tele lenses (Sony 70-400G and Tamron 150-600) is bit mixed: with LA-EA3 AF easily hunts and is generally rather unreliable, but with LA-EA4 AF obviously works fine, but with the obvious caveats, most importantly there is the limited number of centrally located AF points, which feels outdated when the native AF system would offer much wider AF coverage.
Therefor, I usually use these tele lenses on α77 II, albeit recently most often my choice for telephoto use has been Sony RX10 IV.
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The thing to remember with E mount adapters is you only get 2.5 or 3 FPS with continuous autofocus. Third-party EF adapters can get around this by emulating a native lens. The native hybrid AF process is slower since it does a contrast-detect step at the end.

I find the LA-EA4 AF often works better than the native hybrid AF.



Edited by QuietOC - 14 May 2019 at 13:20
Sony A68 A77II A6000 A7II LA-EA3 LA-EA4 MC-11
Minolta Maxxum 600si
Pentax Q7 5-15 15-45/2.8
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Canon lenses work well with the a6400 and the a9 especially. Be patient. Thier will be a 200-600 from Sony soon as well. If you look at my April foolishness challenge I shot almost exclusively birds with the 100-400 and 1.4 tc on the a6400. Phenomenol combo. Thier is no difference in af speed or overall sharpness with the 1.4 tc attached which is remarkable as the 100-400 is by far the best telezoom Iíve ever seen

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Can I be devil's advocate here, and ask why you want to move to e-mount *for birding*?

From what I've heard and seen, e-mount can be a good move if you mainly photograph people, but I suspect this not (yet) true for birds, at least not unless you have a really large budget.
Unless anyone can suggest why not, I would have thought that APS-c A_mount was still better for birding, given the cost and availability of lenses and the benefits of the smaller sensor size for subjects which are small and distant.

*I understand perfectly why you might want to move for other reasons, but as good cameras are cheaper than good birding lenses, it makes sense to have multiple cameras...
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Can I be devil's advocate here, and ask why you want to move to e-mount *for birding*?

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Thanks to all for your input. I am happy with my current combo of A77ii and A99. Both my cameras are nearing the ends of their shutter lives. They will be used until they die. It led me to ask myself should I buy another A mount camera (I suspect there will not be many new models going forward) or explore if e-mount is for me. I was keen to hear if there are those with Canon mount glass and how they are faring with their birding exploits.
Charles M

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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Can I be devil's advocate here, and ask why you want to move to e-mount *for birding*?

From what I've heard and seen, e-mount can be a good move if you mainly photograph people, but I suspect this not (yet) true for birds, at least not unless you have a really large budget.
Unless anyone can suggest why not, I would have thought that APS-c A_mount was still better for birding, given the cost and availability of lenses and the benefits of the smaller sensor size for subjects which are small and distant.
You already heard the answer from the original poster, but if I had to answer this question, I would say that the latest E mount cameras (including α6400 with APS-C sensor) seem to have AF systems that are now a nod above the trusty A mount top models. Sure, the new animal eye AF feature does not yet cover birds, but even without that the newer E mount cameras offer few things that are not present in the current A mount camera models. Like that you can mate FE 100-400 and 2◊ teleconverter and still get autofocus!
Of course, there are also some downsides like that the new E mount equipment is rather expensive; if you swap lenses often, it is easier to get dust onto the exposed sensor; the rear display does have as flexible mounting as α77/99 series; etc, etc...
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To piggy back what hezu said I have used all the a mount cameras and the riii aiii and especially the 6400 and a9 have better af systems than the a77ii or a99ii. I would put the a6400 and a9 up against anything and feel quite confident in it being at least a smidge better. Personally Iím impressed with the little 6400. Great camera.
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