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    Posted: 24 June 2020 at 16:41
Does anyone have a specific fave brand? Or line within a brand they have as their go to SCREW-IN filters? Screw-in only please.

I've only got two filters: PL-C (new-ish, always forget I have it) and R72 (many years old). And a bundle of step-up rings so I don't repeat buy the glass bit.

I'd like to get a decent ND (a pretty dark one) to try some day-time long exposures on a breezy/cloudy day. Might even treat myself to a new/decent PL-C (if it is worth it?) ... and actually take it out with me!?

I've seen Gobe filters recently. A totally new name to me. They seem to have three 'quality' options available (more layers of coating). And they do sets with ND8/ND64/ND1000 in them (although I probably only want/need the ND1000). And the sets come with a top and bottom 'cap' and all in a baggy too. Seems quite nice (gift idea!).

Might be handy to also have a UV for a super dusty environment - hence the interest in a set - since I don't use UVs routinely.

Any brands people specifically recommend? Perhaps lower than B+W priced. And have you had good/bad luck with any (UK) eBay sellers. I've seen talk of some fake filters out there?

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personally I have found that Zomie (10 stops) and Haida (3 stops) are very decent with minimal colour casts and minimal loss in sharpness. Also they can be bought for very decent prices.

Hoya pro ND filters we decent for colour casts but destroyed the sharpness at least on my high res bodies. So I have sold them all now.

actually for polarisers also any cheap one will generally work just fine (there was a post on lens rental blog that tested this).

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Do not really have a favourable filter brand, but back then (many moons ago) bought some for a decent price and which were sold under the brand Haida.
The ND sets included ND8/64/1000 slim filters + screw-on lens caps (top+bottom) and they produce a minimal colour cast only; also quite satisfied with their IR (680nm) and UV-IR cut filters (all mainly for use with my full-spectrum converted NEX-5N and as addition to my other IR filters). Presumably just another Chinese brand name which is used for marketing filters and similar to this newly established Gobe brand.

Bear in mind that there might be the possibility of light leaks when stacking step-up rings in conjunction with ND filters, because of not perfect screw threads (especially for overly long exposures)! So that additional measures (tape, fabric, tissue) need to be taken to prevent this.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Tricky01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2020 at 18:07
I've always been pleased with B+W ND filters, I've always used their 10 stop filter and it's great. I briefly had a variable ND filter and was very disappointed. Idea is great, but they don't work with wide angle lenses (anything wider than 35mm really), which is where I tend to want to use a 10 stop for long exposures landscapes in the day time. For PLs I've always had Pro1 filters and been happy with results
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Post Options Post Options   Quote neilt3 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2020 at 19:28
For a six stop and ten stop I use Haida filters , very good .
No colour cast , no impact on sharpness .
My circular polarisers are Minolta ones .
My infrared filters are mainly B&W 092 & 093 , though I do have some Hoya r72 , depending on lens and contrast required .
Also if I'm shooting IR film or digital .

My main screw in filters for black and white film , and colour correction for colour film , are mostly Minolta .

Most of the filters I tend to use are slot in ones , either Cokin or HiTech for ND's and grads .
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Post Options Post Options   Quote saxbike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2020 at 20:29
I use Breakthrough filters both CPL and ND. Excellent sharpness and neutral color.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote ABDurbs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 June 2020 at 09:12
I having been using B+W or Marumi for some time now. No colour or image deterioration issues at all. IMHO B+W is superior but expensive.

About 3 months ago I managed to buy a B+W ND8 and Marumi ND4 82mm for $3.00 each, from a shop that was closing down
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Post Options Post Options   Quote dCap Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 June 2020 at 11:54
Great stuff - thank you - will look into some of these unfamiliar names - some are completely new to me!

Gobe are Australian and the filters are made in Japan (at least, some of them are, or the glass is, not that that should really matter) ... they have a 'boxed set' of all the NDs (I don't need them all!), or some NDs, or a mix of colors. Plus they have a couple of sets giving PL-C/ND/UV and end caps. So, a potentially interesting choice for a new or change in filter thread.

Super pro-tip @Micholand on the potential for light leak with a step-up. That might have foxed me if I'd encountered that. If I was restricting myself to fujifilm's latest crons with threads a mixed bag of 43/46/49 then I would possibly get a 52mm set of filters and direct single 43-52, 46-52, 49-52 steppers. I wouldn't step-step stack them up. But a couple of the older fujinon lenses are 52mm thread ... so for future proofing I either aim for 58mm now or take the financial hit and buy filters again later.

Reason I am over-sizing is just in case I want to stack two NDs. Today with a 16/2.8 (49mm thread) I'm sure ONE 49mm filter would be fine. But if I stack two then I might get a vignette ... so, 52mm via a stepping ring? Or would y'all aim for 58mm to be sure (on a 24mm equivalent prime)?
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Gobe ND filter especially 10 stop isn't very good for colour cast. I tried it and returned it.

I did a fair bit fo research and trying before buying and came to following conclusions for ND:

Breakthrough X4 filters seems to be best of the best. Hard (read really expensive) to source in UK and would love to own these one day.

B+W pro ones were previously the best before getting dethroned by breakthrough filters. They also seem thicker framed(?)
These seem just as expensive to buy so might as well buy breakthrough.

Zomei and Haida as far as I can tell use the same glass under different names. Just the one you can source most easily/cheaply. They work incredibly well for fraction of a price of the above, there is very minimal colour cast that I could live with or easily correct.

Hoya Pro while colour cast once again was not too bad it killed the sharpness. so i stay away from there.

Tried others you get on amazon from the neewers to gobe to kenko. Most had annoying colour casts and loss in detail to varying degree. Some weren't even properly 10 stops. Anyway stay away from them.
Breakthrough and B+W and others do a lower quality cheaper version of their "pro" range. I don't think these are really any better than zomie and haida if not slightly worst.

And if you camera supports playmemories nothing beats the smooth reflections app (ok a slight exaggeration) which can get you up to about equivalent of 8 stops of "smoothing effect".

For CPL:
Apart from a few really cheap tatty ones most work just fine.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 June 2020 at 09:40
If you want good big-stop ND filters, read the web reviews first and don't buy a variable. For the rest - I rarely use them and don't notice any brand difference when I do.
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