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    Posted: 08 June 2021 at 10:48
I am considering buying a good, genuine fit in the pocket travel camera that has a good, longish zoom. DPR highly recommends the RX100 VII and the review looks pretty good.

There doesn't seem to be any RX100 VII posts on the forum so I am hoping somebody on Dyxum has some practical experience with this camera, and can offer any constructive (or negative) comments.

I did consider the A6400/6600 but once you put on a reasonable lens, they are not true fit in the pocket cameras. And no my cell phone is not good enough

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Pallanza Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 June 2021 at 16:04
I am not sure if I really can help you.

I do have the RX 100 III (plus an A7r III) and am thinking about a version with a longer zoom, e.g. the RX 100 VII.

But: Imho, the RX 100 III is much sharper than the RX 100 VII, based on sample images in the net.

So the weighting is (as usual) sharpness vs. focal length.

This weighting depends on the intended use resp. size of your images. Cropping a sharp image with a shorter focal length (70 mm) may give the same visual result as a full size soft image from a longer focal length.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote bonneville Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 June 2021 at 17:41
I'm inclined to agree with @Pallanza. I too have the RX100iii (and an a7iii) and have read many reviews when considering upgrading as I do, literally, carry it with me everywhere.

FWIW, I think the earlier versions of the RX100, and interestingly they are ALL still available new from the mark 1 on, are better value for money than the last two or three versions that are rendering the camera from a great compact all rounder to mini-sized a9.

Good luck with your decision and if it is useful to you DPReview ran an article comparing them all.




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Did you consider the RX100 VI? The difference between the RX100 VI and VII is not that big. I would keep the difference in my pocket for a nice drink

For pocketability I have the Ricoh GR III - but the 28mm FoV is not for everybody. For pocket friendly long lenses, the RX100 VI and VII seem the best choice. The Panasonic TZ/SZ100 and TZ/SZ200 seem to be noticeably worse.

Basically, I cannot answer your question. But there is no alternative.
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Originally posted by bonneville bonneville wrote:

FWIW, I think the earlier versions of the RX100, and interestingly they are ALL still available new from the mark 1 on, are better value for money than the last two or three versions that are rendering the camera from a great compact all rounder to mini-sized a9.
Unless you want a focallength over 100mm...
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Get you hands on a raw file and check it out.
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I just noticed in the Netherlands the cashbacks mean the difference between the RX100 VI and RX100 VII is just 50,- (949,- vs. 999,-) - in that case, the VII is a no brainer compared to the VI.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ABDurbs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 07:52
Thank you for your comments.

Unfortunately in South Africa, it is difficult to get your hands on earlier model RX100's, and the difference in price between the RX100 V1 and V11 does not make the earlier model more attractive to me.

I think the RX100 V11 would be a very good pocket camera, but first I must try find a dealer who will let me try it out before buying, as it is an expensive pocket camera.

Also Sony SA is running cash back offers on A6 & 7 models, so maybe it is a good time to consider moving to E mount, which throws a spanner in the works
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 08:51
Originally posted by ABDurbs ABDurbs wrote:

Unfortunately in South Africa, it is difficult to get your hands on earlier model RX100's, and the difference in price between the RX100 V1 and V11 does not make the earlier model more attractive to me.

I think the RX100 V11 would be a very good pocket camera, but first I must try find a dealer who will let me try it out before buying, as it is an expensive pocket camera.
Definately a good idea to test one with your own hands before buying.
Originally posted by ABDurbs ABDurbs wrote:

Also Sony SA is running cash back offers on A6 & 7 models, so maybe it is a good time to consider moving to E mount, which throws a spanner in the works
Careful with the designations! There is not (yet) any α6 models, the APS-C E mount models are α6x00 (and NEX-6, but that is no longer available). And those RX100 models have roman numbers (VI/VII vs. V1/V11).

And in the spanner in the works territory, I would mention also Sony RX10 IV, which may not be pocketable like those RX100 models, but then the larger form factor (similar to a small ILC with a normal zoom) allows much more versatile lens (24-600 mm in 35 mm equivalency) and slightly beefier battery. But certainly this is still much more compact than any ILC with long telephoto lens and almost as capable: AF works in similar fashion to the newer E mount models, but controls are perhaps little fiddly making eg. manual focus more challenging and obviously 1" sensor can't perform quite like larger sensors.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote SnowFella Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 09:13
Sony Australia running cash back offers on the A7R4 was what finally threw me over the line, didn't help they were also doing it on 2 of the lenses that I was aiming to get.
Had my cash back validated earlier today so now it's the 28 day waiting to see if they will pay up.
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Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Careful with the designations! There is not (yet) any α6 models, the APS-C E mount models are α6x00 (and NEX-6, but that is no longer available). And those RX100 models have roman numbers (VI/VII vs. V1/V11).

I will be more precise next time.
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Sadly the A7RIII which is the body I would prefer, is not being offered on cash back. I cant afford the A7RIV even on cash back
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Guess it's Sony's "normal", A7RIII is on a $400 AUD cash back here in Australia right now.
Was a tad worried when it came to the R4 as Sony Au's cashback only mentions A7RIV and not the "new" A7RIVA model that I ended up getting...but the claim was approved regardless.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 June 2021 at 11:28
Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Careful with the designations! There is not (yet) any α6 models, the APS-C E mount models are α6x00 (and NEX-6, but that is no longer available).
Be careful! Not only the A6x00 and NEX-6 are APS-C, but also the A5x00, NEX-3, NEX-5 and NEX-7. It is a whole rabbit hole

It of course depends why you want a smaller camera, but none of the E-mount cameras are pocketable (with a small lens some might be coat pocketable). The RX100's are really small, so, trying before you buy is a good idea.
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