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    Posted: 07 December 2013 at 14:49
Samples: Minolta MC/MD/Rokkor 35mm F2.8

This lens has the following versions:

1. 1959: Auto W.Rokkor-HG
2. 1962: Auto W.Rokkor-HG
3. 1965: Auto W.Rokkor-HG
4. 1966: MC W.Rokkor-HG
5. 1973: MC W.Rokkor (-X)(HG)
6. 1975: MC W.Rokkor (-X)
7. 1977: MD W.Rokkor (-X)
8. 1978: MD W.Rokkor (-X)
9. 1981: MD

mount: Minolta SR
format: FF
year: 1959-1981
max aperture: F2.8
min aperture: F16 (2-6)/ F22 (1,7,8,9)
elements/group: 7 in 6 (1-5)/ 5 in 5 (6-9)
aperture blades: 6
min focus distance (mm): 250 (1)/ 400 (2-4)/ 300 (5-9)
filter diameter (mm): 55 (1-7)/ 49 (8,9)
length (mm): 53 (1,2)/ 45 (3,4,5)/ 41.5 (6,7)/ 38,5 (8)/ 38 (9)
weight (g): 300 (1)/ 315 (2)/ 205 (3,7)/ 210 (4)/ 240 (5)/ 220 (6)/ 165 (8)/ 170 (9)

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This thread is open for C&C and for posting additional pictures. Please ONLY post pictures taken with the lens in the title- or start a new thread. Please state camera, version of the lens and adapter in your post!


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CAMERA: A7R - LENS VERSION: 1975 MC W-Rokkor - PIXOO ADAPTER



This image of the Queen Mary 2 in Southampton Dock is for fun rather than showing off the optical qualities of the lens (I love this lens). The image is not critically sharp and I underexposed by 2 stops for atmosphere and to obscure the pretty dreadful foreground from behind the fence (they shall not pass!).

QUEEN MARY 2

A7R * 35/2.8 * iso500 * 1/125

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Hi Peter,

Super idea! I'd like to see sample threads like this for all of the SR mount lenses! And I like the photo! The exposure actually works! There are aomw objects in the sky on the right side. Are they birds? One seems to have a light or reflection.

I probably have photos using my MC Rokkor 35mm f2.8 using film, but without exif data, I couldn't be sure. Besides it is very usfull to know how these lenses perform on the A7 and A7r.

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Hi Kelly, one is a bird, the lit one is a FlyBe coming in to land at Southamptom Airport.

We are trying to get threads going showing sample images (something like the Alpha lens database) using not just SR lenses, although that's my personal objective, but any legacy lenses that mount on A7/A7R and NEX cameras or A-Mount come to that.
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CAMERA: A7R - PIXOO ADAPTER

The younger (c1450) of the two Lecterns in St.Michaels Parish Church, the only Church to survive the bombing almost intact. A fine brass eagle but the jewelled eyes and claws are long gone.

I've included some 100% crops as a lens IQ indicater.
LECTERN

A7R * 35/2.8 * iso64 * 10secs
LECTERN CROPS

A7R * 35/2.8 * iso64 * 10secs

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CAMERA: A7R - PIXOO ADAPTER

Although I really like this lens, it's not perfect. The Bokeh can be bad depending on the background.

BOKEH
 



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Thank you, Peter,

I suppose that was to be expected with only 6 blades -- and not the more modern curved type. Personally in the 16-35mm range I'm going for max depth of field and sharpness, which it would seem this lens is capable of. But that's just me, not being so inclined to shoot with shallow DOF (which sometimes seems to be an obsession with some). What I like about my Rokkors is the overall image quality. I can't tell you why. Its not just sharpness (like for example a Zeiss), but overall image rendering. Perhaps it has something to do with Minolta's admiration for the Leica optical design and later collaboration with Leica. Arguably the rendering of Rokkor lenses is more like Leica than Zeiss. Ironic that the Minolta legacy is now collaborating with Zeiss.

OT, but fyi, RRS L Bracket for the A7/A7r

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Hi Kelly,
Thanks for the link and yes 100% agree, I'm almost always looking for more DOF at these wider angles so the Bokeh is rarely an issue for me which is probably why I never went for the MC 35/1.8 which is also much bigger and I don't see a big step in IQ either although Darosa may not agree. The 35/2.8 Shift CA is an even bigger lump of glass to cart about. There is certainly a "je ne sais quoi" to Rokkor lenses which does draw a following; I've been hooked since the '60s.

I'm not sure whether Minolta admired Leica lenses or whether it was the other way round. I know that Leica rated Minolta highly and back in the 70s, several Minolta lenses were adopted by Leica and simply re-badged Elmarit-R.

Here's the 35/2.8 on the A7R, it's reasonably compact even with the adapter.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AudioDoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 December 2013 at 18:46
Hi Peter,

She's a beauty! That's the same version MC Rokkor 35mm f2.8 as mine (my copy came to me via the Netherlands so doesn't have the "X" in the name.

As well as the lenses, the R3 and R4 bodies (almost same as the XE and XD series) and CL were collaborations and said to have been built in Minolta factories.

Keep those nice sample photos coming! I'm saving my pennies for the A7r but in the meantime I'll just have to make do with my "old" A99!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote darosa Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2013 at 00:06
Originally posted by Peekayoh Peekayoh wrote:

Hi Kelly,
Thanks for the link and yes 100% agree, I'm almost always looking for more DOF at these wider angles so the Bokeh is rarely an issue for me which is probably why I never went for the MC 35/1.8 which is also much bigger and I don't see a big step in IQ either although Darosa may not agree.


Peter, no disagreement from me. The advantage of the 35/1.8 is that the bokeh is much smoother (and Kelly, yes I have that 'obsession' ) but you're right it is a BIG lens.
I also have an Auto Rokkor 35/2.8, a bit older than your 35/2.8 version, and a different lens design, and I will test it on the a7 one of these days, and compare it with the 35/1.8.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote AudioDoc Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2013 at 01:15
Hi Leo! No problem with that obsession! I only meant its not high priority for me, especially in the wide angle focal length. You've probably read Antony's review here in case you haven't I see the 1.8 has 8 elements is 6 groups compared to 7 in 6 for the 2.8. Does the 1.8 have more aperture blades? Guess that would help achieve nicer bokeh. Anyway most of these old Rokkors are gems!

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Originally posted by darosa darosa wrote:

Peter, no disagreement from me. The advantage of the 35/1.8 is that the bokeh is much smoother (and Kelly, yes I have that 'obsession' ) but you're right it is a BIG lens.
I also have an Auto Rokkor 35/2.8, a bit older than your 35/2.8 version, and a different lens design, and I will test it on the a7 one of these days, and compare it with the 35/1.8.
I'd like to see that comparison although, as you say, the optics are no doubt different. I'm not entirely sure of the construction of my 35/2.8 which is why I marked it "5 in 5 ??" because it may be "7 in 6"; at the time of purchase I was only dimly aware of the finer points but I'm sure enough that it's MCII.

I will also do some comparisons with my other Rokkors covering 35mm as I have several. Apart from the 35/2.8 I have the rather substantial Shift CA, MD Z ROKKOR 24-50/4 and MD Z ROKKOR 35-70/3.5. I also have the earlier non macro version (same as the re-badged Elmarit-R) but it suffered from a drop back in the early '80s; I wish now I'd had it fixed rather than getting the macro version.
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Originally posted by AudioDoc AudioDoc wrote:

Hi Peter,
She's a beauty! That's the same version MC Rokkor 35mm f2.8 as mine (my copy came to me via the Netherlands so doesn't have the "X" in the name.
As well as the lenses, the R3 and R4 bodies (almost same as the XE and XD series) and CL were collaborations and said to have been built in Minolta factories.
Keep those nice sample photos coming! I'm saving my pennies for the A7r but in the meantime I'll just have to make do with my "old" A99!
Regards, Kelly
Happy to do that Kelly!

SAGA SAPPHIRE Bound for the Baltic.

A7R * 35/2.8 * iso1600 * 0.4secs
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rovhazman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 December 2013 at 01:22
When time allow, I will join this Minolta 35/2.8 festival. I have the Minolta MC W.ROKKOR 35mm F2.8, the Minolta MC W.ROKKOR-HG 35mm F2.8 and the Minolta SHIFT CA ROKKOR 35MM F2.8
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