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Post Options Post Options   Quote ricardovaste Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2019 at 11:18
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

The hood is not optional in a busy city like Athens. If you're into details I can imagine you choose a tele, but that would be the 70-200/4 or the 70-300G, not the heavy 70-200/2.8. Walking up the Parthenon or just around town, that weight will be a problem.

Edit: you be you but this is how I look at it. Going up the Parthenon or to the base of Lycabettus, I would like to go relatively light.


Yeah, that is very jarring to my personal style. A 70-200 is almost the complete opposite of a tiny 35/1.4. BUT... you need to know what you like... if you're into picking out details of various kinds from afar, a telephoto will give you a view and perspective that a wide lens just won't. Not something I'd enjoy to do/live with whilst traveling (!) but to each their own!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkkyler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2019 at 11:36
the 24-240 is the cure for any tele concerns (haven't used it much, had always used the 70-200 beercan ) along with that the wide angle and the two primes

I am comfortable with 2 zooms and 2 primes 16-35, 24-240 and 50/1.8 and then either the 14 I have or the 24 1.4 If I pick one up.

I have a plastic bag that I always stick my camera in when changing lenses to avoid getting dust debris on the sensor. Don't know why this isn't more popular.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote whiteheat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2019 at 12:03
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

The hood is not optional in a busy city like Athens. If you're into details I can imagine you choose a tele, but that would be the 70-200/4 or the 70-300G, not the heavy 70-200/2.8. Walking up the Parthenon or just around town, that weight will be a problem.

Edit: you be you but this is how I look at it. Going up the Parthenon or to the base of Lycabettus, I would like to go relatively light.

Oh, tut, tut . Let's do some maths. I believe the op stated he was considering these lenses to take with:
Sony 16-35 F2.8 – 680g
Sony 24-240 – 780g
Sony 50 1.8 – 186g
Sony 24 1.4 – 445g
Samyang/Rokinon 14mm 2.8
Total weight: 2091g

I know the 14 2.8 was also mentioned but I did not know the manufacturer, so the weight would vary.

My solution involved either the 2.8 or 4 variant of the Sony 70-200 plus an RX100, so I'll go with the mark VI:
Sony 70-200 2.8 – 1480g
Sony 70-200 4 – 840g
Sony RX100VI – 301g
Weight totals either, 1781g or 1141g depending on which 70-200 is chosen.

So, the choice as far as weight of glass goes would be 2091g vs 1781g or 1141g.

From the top of a hill, I'd want a tele zoom, but that's just my style. I like things closer with clear detail over getting a much wider field of view with everything seeming to be a great distance away and details sparse to non existent, but that's just me.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote mihai-ian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2019 at 12:43
my standard travel kit the last 2 years was A7RII, FE16-35mm f4, 55mm f1.8 and FE70-200mm f4
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkkyler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2019 at 13:11
Going with the 16-35 f4 so only 512g for it.

Also once I get there I will not have every lens with me everytime. Will consider where I am going that day and take at most 2 lenses with me. Typically 1 zoom and 1 faster prime. Between my wife and I we can manage to lug around 1 camera and 2 lenses. Always have the cell phone in a pinch as well. As long as you are not looking to blow something up cell phones can give a nice 4x6 print.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2019 at 14:06
@whiteheat: you would like the 70-300G on top of that hill, even more reach but wait, the RX100m6 has a 200mm lens, you could even leave all your lenses at home if you bring that one

I was not doubting your preference for a tele lens, just the one you chose, the heavier one.
If the Op went with the 16-35/4 and the 85/1.8 (what would be my choice) he would be even lighter, but that is beside the point as it is not our preference that is important but jkkyler's.

@jkkyler: looks like a good plan
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 February 2019 at 15:06
Originally posted by jkkyler jkkyler wrote:

I have a plastic bag that I always stick my camera in when changing lenses to avoid getting dust debris on the sensor. Don't know why this isn't more popular. typically the opening is pointing down, the camera is onside and slide the lens up and in - viola.
I have sometimes still a plastic bag with me, but I more and more avoid mounting lenses outdoor. IBIS and better high ISO help here lot. Car microclimate helps lot too.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkkyler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 February 2019 at 22:35
Thanks for all the help. Ordered the zeiss 16-35 f4 today. Camera store will have it in next Tuesday.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Barrin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2019 at 12:33
Very nice post, very rich of information, well done guys

I noticed very few suggestions of standard 24/28-70 zooms usually adviced for generic usage while travelling.

Is the idea of a superzoom + prime overcoming this idea of a lone standard lens?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2019 at 13:41
For me is important, that zoom has good enough IQ at the longer end too. For me zooms with longer end from 150...200mm full frame are ok, as I rarely need more reach.
If I need, then shots made with good enoug zooms can be croped lot. As example with my 18-135 (27-203mm FF) I can surely have even up to 3000x2000 croped pics good enough.

But yes, if superzoom is good enough and is not too big and heavy to carry, then why not.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2019 at 16:13
Regarding the superzoom, I just went with the question of the OP. Like I said before, I would go with an ultra wide zoom and a medium tele lens. I do not think the standard zoom is the best for travel. I went to Iceland with my 24-70/2.8 and tbh I used in situations I shouldn't have used it, in those situations I should have switched to my ultra wide - and do you know, I brought the 24-70 just because it was advised here on Dyxum. To me, an ultra wide zoom is the essential in town travel lens and a 85mm or 100mm lens can complete it, that leaves no place for the standard zoom. Outside the city I'll add a decent zoom lens.

I would never travel with a superzoom, but that is just me. A lot of people like the possibility to make any kind of picture with just one lens. That is not me, but I understand the sentiment. I also understand that whiteheat has different photographic interests then I do. So, each to his or her own, use the lens that fits your photographic style.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote jkkyler Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2019 at 17:31
I was able to pick-up the 24-240 a little while ago on sale for $500 USD. I was hoping and sentiment here is I can replace my kit 28-70 and my A mount 70-210 beercan + adapter ( and get a little extra at both the wide and tele ends) with it. Once the Greece trip got planned I realized I need ed an ultra wide. Will take the 50 1.8 for the extra stop and a half of light and prime sharpness and a prime uw as well. 4 lenses for a 2 week vacation seems fine to me

Edited by jkkyler - 08 February 2019 at 17:42
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2019 at 19:35
When I said never, I did not mean never but a superzoom wouldn't be my first choice.

Four lenses seem okay. That btw was a good deal on that 24-240!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote glefebvre Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 February 2019 at 20:10
I've got the 24-240 and use if on my A7R. It is good lens for what it is. You can get nice and shape images if you have good technique. The only real issue I have with the lens is the that in low light it hunts a lot. That might be do my A7R. I would think the on an A7III it would hunt less. I would also bring an ultra wide zoom of some kind. For me that would be my Minolta 17-35G and LA-EA4 or possibly my Sigma 12-24 (1st gen).
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