FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Seligman; 2 new photos 4/13

Page  12>
Author
Coast View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 12 May 2015
Country: United States
Location: Southwest
Status: Offline
Posts: 2191
Post Options Post Options   Quote Coast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Seligman; 2 new photos 4/13
    Posted: 05 September 2020 at 04:17
I've been trying to find and drive as much of the original Route 66


as possible, to try and relive some of the history and for the fun of it
So far its been rather bland and disappointing. I might have to travel to Missouri or such, which is just too far.
There is a part from Seligman Az. to Kingman Az, I hadn't been on. A couple of weeks ago I went to drive it and see what I saw. (There is No travel ban in most of the Western United States)

I got on Rt 66 in Seligman and I was shocked and heartbroken, mostly Heartbroken. Seligman is one of the famous western rt 66 towns
very little editing, mostly clicked on the enhance button on a few of them. One of them I did a full blown edit.




My 2018 trip to Seligman





2020, I'm the only thing in town





All this is basically one Italian immigrants creativity

hard to see how these little towns survive this




Welcomed by Bette Boop, Elvis, Marylin and John Wayne; heck of a greeting

his name is in one of these photos



















A Ford Edsel, one of the most infamous American cars





behind the scene


















just put a lock on the door and walked away

happened many times in the West. Bodie Ghost Town is another




maybe a barn find🤷‍♂️















maybe the end of the road





thought I owed you a shot of the road itself Rt 66 between Seligman and Kingman
not one Rt 66 sign on the whole thing. All the traffic was on the Big Interstate nearby
I felt pretty lonely





Winslow Az isn't doing too well either, a photo I took a few weeks back





although, Williams Az seems to be doing very well






Edited by Coast - 13 April 2021 at 07:51
a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon 12mm f.2, Rokinon 21mm f, 1.4, Rokkor MC 58mm f, 1.4 < Long distances at Hi speed >
 



Back to Top
Jozioau View Drop Down
Alpha Eyes group
Alpha Eyes group

Joined: 13 May 2007
Country: Australia
Location: Melbourne
Status: Offline
Posts: 6815
Post Options Post Options   Quote Jozioau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 September 2020 at 06:43
Joe,
That's a fascinating glimpse of part of Route 66 for us armchair travellers.
As you say, and as can be seen, rather forlorn nowadays.

I had seen the Billy Connolly's Route 66 four part documentary back in 2011 where he rode his motor bike from Chicago to St.Louis, so I had some notion of what is had become after the interstate highways left it largely sidelined and abandoned, but in the intervening years it seems things have got a lot worse.

Those roadside souvenir shops look pretty desperate.

Anyway, it's all very interesting to see through your eyes.
TFS.
"Your first 10,000 photographs are your worst" - Henri Cartier-Bresson
My FlickrPro site
Back to Top
waldo_posth View Drop Down
Alpha Eyes group
Alpha Eyes group

Joined: 01 August 2012
Country: Germany
Location: Potsdam
Status: Offline
Posts: 5520
Post Options Post Options   Quote waldo_posth Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 September 2020 at 18:07
A great series of images, Josef - and also a fascinating documentation. The photo ops might change in their character (Bodie!) but they are nevertheless still there - which you gave proof of.

The "Road Relics" and the "Barn find" are great images - as for me is the "Behind the scene" image and the "portrait" of Edsel. Isn't "infamous" a bit too negative as a description for that car? It definitely isn't an ugly car (ugliness being in the eye of the beholder as well, I admit: my "favorite" ugly car would be the AMC Pacer).

Thank you for getting this vicarious experience of Rt. 66 from you!
"Stare, pry, listen, eavesdrop. Die knowing something. You are not here long." (Walker Evans)   http://www.flickr.com/photos/waldo_posth/
Back to Top
West View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 30 December 2011
Country: Russian Federation
Location: Kolomna
Status: Offline
Posts: 454
Post Options Post Options   Quote West Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 September 2020 at 18:31
Lovely set of photos and a story behind it.

It's very interesting for me to know more how people live on different parts on Earth. TFS
Back to Top
Almazar80 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 16 May 2008
Country: United States
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Posts: 2794
Post Options Post Options   Quote Almazar80 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 September 2020 at 23:23
Great documentary set. It's unfortunate that the towns that used to thrive when the people traveled that road are either gone or in such a sad state. Some of them will meet the same fate that the towns in the gold rush met - once the source of income was gone, so too were the people. Your images will be here for posterity and thank you for the work and artistry that you put in to document an important part of Americana and American history.
Back to Top
Coast View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 12 May 2015
Country: United States
Location: Southwest
Status: Offline
Posts: 2191
Post Options Post Options   Quote Coast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 September 2020 at 07:36
Thank You Gentlemen,
Joe,
I always appreciate your kind words and wise comments
Yes thats the great thing about Dyxum, we can be armchair travellers, whirl around the world living vicariously. But you see as recently as 2018, Seligman was a hub of Western Americana, thru out the world. There are tour buses filled w Europeans and Asians. For some reason Europeans are really attracted by the lore of Route 66. Just look at you tube
And yes the comparison of the 2018 photo and the 2020 is devastating.

But to be honest, I don't set out w much more of a goal then to drive my purple car out there in the wide open spaces and just explore things


Harald, always great hearing from you

I have some more vicarious stuff coming Glad you liked those images
Now lets talk about the Edsel for a minute As the great radio personality Paul Harvey would say "and now the rest of the story" And you can decide if infamous is appropriate

It was ballyhooed as the next great car and even given the name of the Ford President - Edsel__(Ford) and it was a great flop. No one really bought it and it disappeared in only a few years
Folks thought of it as just a Fairlane w a particular woman's part on the front grill!. Now I won't discuss here what that part was.    

Your right about the Pacer____otherwise known as the up-side down Bathtub




West,
So glad you commented, I've been busy w my photos and traveling, somehow I had missed your Epic post, Karelia. Wonderful, poignant images. Congratulations . So glad I got to see your part of the world. Beautiful



Thank you Winston,
For those wonderful comments
At best I'm a traveling picture taker who gets lucky sometimes
Your right that is about as Americana as one can gets. I was just compelled to take those photos
a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon 12mm f.2, Rokinon 21mm f, 1.4, Rokkor MC 58mm f, 1.4 < Long distances at Hi speed >
 



Back to Top
KoBra64 View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 16 October 2008
Country: Netherlands
Location: Groningen
Status: Offline
Posts: 3319
Post Options Post Options   Quote KoBra64 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 September 2020 at 16:46
Joseph, I love your post too as for me Route 66 is the name of an iconic road (never been there). The decline and remoteness depicted in the shots is what I like a lot. And as you mention, traveling along, 'around in wide open spaces and explore things', different parts of the world by pictures is great.
Thanks for sharing.
Back to Top
Coast View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 12 May 2015
Country: United States
Location: Southwest
Status: Offline
Posts: 2191
Post Options Post Options   Quote Coast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2020 at 06:47
Thank you Peter
for the kind words, glad you enjoyed our little Route 66 trip. lately I've been exploring and photographing some fascinating places and things most people have never heard of, including me
a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon 12mm f.2, Rokinon 21mm f, 1.4, Rokkor MC 58mm f, 1.4 < Long distances at Hi speed >
Back to Top
owenn01 View Drop Down
Alpha Eyes group
Alpha Eyes group

Joined: 20 May 2008
Country: United Kingdom
Location: Kent
Status: Offline
Posts: 11148
Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 September 2020 at 22:14
Hi Joseph,

Many thanks for such an informative thread posting. Thank you also for raising the awareness of how this once iconic Route has changed and the impact that has had on the 'small town America' that once thrived on it's symbolism and traffic for a living.

I think you've documented the decay in many of these images really well; honestly but also sympathetically and it fascinates me that even in the toughest locations and circumstances you see the two extremes of how people cope; in Seligman it's either the "lock up and leave" approach or, by contrast, the Italian family business that is still fighting to keep their heads above water by ever more ingenious measures to entice the passing tourist in to see what they have to offer '(if it looks unusual on the outside, what have they got to offer indoors' is a well known approach it seems!).

The abandoned vehicles you show us, if everything we see on TV over here, must now have value from a restoration viewpoint - the Edsel and the 'barn find' are obvious ones, but the sign on the Blue car (Is that a Chevy or a Buick?) says 'keep off' so I suspect it may still be a runner looking at how good the wheels and tires look?

Perhaps the people of Winslow have the best idea: hold Hot Rod/Restoration Rallys over a weekend and get the petrol heads into town. Seriously, these seem to be the people that have money to burn (literally?) and enticing them in with open roads and little else may be the answer for some of them.

The images, as I said, are very well presented - great colour and detail and they document not only the decline of the area but also some of the desolation, which may be the ultimate pointer to where these are heading.

Thanks for the tour - it sort of reflects some of the places we found in Utah a couple of years ago but not quite to this extent.

Take care out there and stay safe, Joseph!

best regards, Neil.
My Mantra: "Comment on other's work as you would wish to have yours commented upon". Go on - it's fun!
Back to Top
angora View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 02 March 2014
Country: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Posts: 4127
Post Options Post Options   Quote angora Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2020 at 09:35
TY for a great tour, Joseph!
Back to Top
Jadom View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 01 September 2014
Country: United States
Location: Poland, USA
Status: Offline
Posts: 1140
Post Options Post Options   Quote Jadom Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 September 2020 at 19:20
Originally posted by angora angora wrote:

TY for a great tour, Joseph!


And I double it. TFS.
Jack.SigmaDP1x,DP2M,SonyA7M2,Min: MC35F2.8, AF50F1.7, 70-210F, SL16-35F4, KironKine 80-200F4Macro, Promaster MC28F2.8, Rokinon 85f1.4, Samyang 14F2.8, Tamron: SP AF 28-75F2.8XR Di LD, 70-300 F4-5.6Di
Back to Top
Coast View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 12 May 2015
Country: United States
Location: Southwest
Status: Offline
Posts: 2191
Post Options Post Options   Quote Coast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2020 at 05:34
Thank you Neil,
always incisive thoughts, although you might be a little hard on the "lock and walkaway" man or woman, not knowing the circumstances and yes there are the doers and the quitters.

Thank you Angora; appreciate it much.

Thank you Jack, you 2


I feel a need to write a short part ll
I'm doing it in a new thread because many might be surprised at what I say
a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon 12mm f.2, Rokinon 21mm f, 1.4, Rokkor MC 58mm f, 1.4 < Long distances at Hi speed >
Back to Top
owenn01 View Drop Down
Alpha Eyes group
Alpha Eyes group

Joined: 20 May 2008
Country: United Kingdom
Location: Kent
Status: Offline
Posts: 11148
Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 September 2020 at 08:19
Hi Joseph,

I suspect you may have misinterpreted my 'lock and leave' comment a little - I think as a community people are driven to various extremes by what life throws at them. Yes; I (we?) know little of what they have and are experiencing - your second posting of Seligman clearly shows that there is something about the location that is not 'typical' to most of our experiences after all - but it is human nature to continue to struggle on until one reaches a point at which either you just resign yourself to the fact that nothing more can be done and that you have reached the "end of your tether" and go ('lock and leave' perhaps?), or you knuckle down and fight it with whatever ingenuity you can muster and hope that things improve.

Yes; I guess that can be summed up as doers and quitters but that seemed just a little hard on those that clearly continue to struggle to make an existence out there. Such a pity as this was - and still could be - a Route that brings people out of the big cities to experience a way of life that is fast disappearing - as you are so ably demonstrating here for us.

Stay safe and travel well - and keep us informed and educated about how real America is doing.

Best regards, Neil.
My Mantra: "Comment on other's work as you would wish to have yours commented upon". Go on - it's fun!
Back to Top
Coast View Drop Down
Senior Member
Senior Member

Joined: 12 May 2015
Country: United States
Location: Southwest
Status: Offline
Posts: 2191
Post Options Post Options   Quote Coast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2021 at 07:24
Pretty good depictions of desperation in the middle of No-Where the southwest





still not much going on, although I did have to stand in line to order a rueben at the Road Runner Cafe

can't seem to get these dummies out of my mind, think its a "Twilight Zone" thing
Coast
a6000, a6500, Zeiss 16-70, Sony 70-350G, Rokinon 12mm f.2, Rokinon 21mm f, 1.4, Rokkor MC 58mm f, 1.4 < Long distances at Hi speed >
Back to Top
Dyxum main page >  Forum Home > Dyxum Photographs > Open Views Page  12>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.059 seconds.

Monitor calibration strip

Dyxum.com - Home of the alpha system photographer

In memory of Cameron Hill - brettania

Feel free to contact us if needed.