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alanfrombangor ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 05 December 2007 Country: Wales Location: Bangor Status: Offline Posts: 4711 |
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Phil, I was about to post a few images of Irish boxes but found this blog which is more interesting.
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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The rare one is a Ludlow box (a cheapo version of wall box) where the royal cipher is on a plate attached to the door - very easy to change; as you note, all but one have indeed been changed. The more robust cast iron wall boxes have the cipher cast on the door, but only 6 were installed in Edw VIII's reign and all have been removed or redoored. Many pillar boxes also had the doors changed but a number remain - it would be interesting to know exactly how many - similar to the Second National Standard wall boxes (~30) I'd guess. |
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alanfrombangor ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 05 December 2007 Country: Wales Location: Bangor Status: Offline Posts: 4711 |
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Bishops Castle. I also have a shot of the same design at Walton on the Wolds but the lettering is partly obscured by thick paint. I read that the Edward VIII wall boxes had their doors changed apart from the one you mentioned which was missed. Pillar boxes remained with the cipher, perhaps because the doors were curved and bigger so more expensive to cast. There must have been a lot of hostility to the abdication for the king, "cancelled" in contemporary rhetoric! |
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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After a few decades trying new designs they reverted to the old 1880s design of the A Type pillar box. The new bit on this particular example is that it has Royal Mail on it rather than Post Office. The change reflects the split-up of the General Post Office and the creation of the privatised Royal Mail Group to handle the mail side of the business.
A Type Royal Mail. ![]() A99ii, Min AF 50/1.4 |
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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While I agree that the gold is not as good as red I fear that the Royal Mail are currently saying that they will keep the 2012 gold boxes in gold. Not that I am offended by the colour very often - no gold medals round here!
The 'day' plate holder is a later addition (screwed on in the case of the two around here). Personally I think my example is cleverer - using the door jamb to prevent the day plate from being removed by all and sundry. Your example needed the addition of a lump of iron on the door to block the day plate holder. Then again yours actually has a plate in the holder, I guess they don't bother any more. Can you remember where you found yours?
Possibly not as rare as the first one - there are apparently 171 surviving Edward VIII boxes, though many are wall rather than pillar boxes. The rarest working box (or equal rarest) is an Edward VIII wall box in Suffolk, the only one of it's type and reign still in use. If I'm ever that way I'll post a picture. |
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alanfrombangor ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 05 December 2007 Country: Wales Location: Bangor Status: Offline Posts: 4711 |
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I find the Type G boxes rather ugly in comparison with the round pillar boxes with the black skirt. This one looks particularly drab in faded gold, it'll be interesting to see if it reverts to red when repainted. 2012 really does seem a different world, there was more optimism then... and we were aall teen years younger!
That's a lovely early Victorian box, Phil, I have one from 2010 but with the collection day in a different place. ![]() And here's a rarity from Welshpool ![]() |
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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10 years is a long time, the paint could do with a touch-up. This is a Type G box - a type I haven't shown yet. They weren't made for long, 1970s but I haven't found the exact dates. Fairly scarce these days but a number have had the gold paint treatment including a pair in Cheshunt for Laura Trott, the UK's most successful female Olympic athlete. |
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Howard_S ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 20 March 2008 Country: United Kingdom Location: Oxford Status: Offline Posts: 4541 |
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![]() Gold post box | A5000 and E PZ 16-50 Another golden box, this one celebrating Lily van den Broeke, a woman from Oxford winning gold in the 2012 London Paralympics. Seems like another age. |
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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Continuing my survey of UK post boxes here is one I visited today.
It is another rare design known as the Second National Standard produced by a Birmingham foundry from 18969 for a few years. They are not as scarce as the same foundry's fluted column pillar boxes, it is thought that there are about 30 surviving in uses. Given the scarcity I was surprised to find two within walking distance of my home. Second National Standard wall box. ![]() A99ii, Min AF 24-85 RS Edited by Phil Wood - 28 June 2022 at 23:11 |
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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Yesterday my dog walk took me past this example of the Post Office's attempts to replace the traditional Type A/B pillar boxes. It is a Type K box, introduced in 1980 and manufactured through to 2001.
Pillar box, Type K, Newbury. ![]() A99ii, Min AF 28/2 |
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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Today's Post Office mail box is of a much more modern type. Introduced in 1996 this is a Type M box, after a few decades of modernistic designs this was a return to a more classic look.
Lamp box, Type M, Newbury. ![]() Edited by Phil Wood - 21 June 2022 at 11:29 |
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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It would break new round for me, apart from one short visit to Liverpool waterfront a few years back I have not been there at all. Today's box is a wall box from the reign of George V. For some reason the regnal number is not included. Boxes from his son George Vi's reign do have the number, his father Edward VII's reign was marked by boxes with ER VII - so why not GR V? I have no answer, but I did see a royal cipher from the reign of George III on some cannon the other day - and it had G R 3. Wall box, Bude (I like a box in a nice wall). ![]() |
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alanfrombangor ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 05 December 2007 Country: Wales Location: Bangor Status: Offline Posts: 4711 |
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Phil, Birkenhead/Liverpool/Crosby (for the Gormley statues) would be good for a Dyxum DM.
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Phil Wood ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 24 March 2013 Country: United Kingdom Location: England Status: Offline Posts: 2537 |
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Thanks Alan, the blog made me realise I had incorrectly labelled my shot - it is at the Westgate not Eastgate in Warwick(corrected).
Photographing the whole set is something I would do - but Birkenhead is a long way and not somewhere I am likely to be close to very often. The rest are in places I am in or near relatively often. However, I am noticing post boxes a lot more these days. Here is another - a 'lamp box' cast by Carron Company in Falkirk, Stirlingshire. It is the Scottish pattern (Scots crown, no royal cipher), but is installed in an English village, albeit one where a Scots king died. Lamp box, Branxton. ![]() |
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