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Posts: 6252 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 September 2021 at 23:06
@addy landzaat
It's 100e more expensive than the A7iii in Sweden, has a worse vf and no front dial. I kind of get why people say "this smallish lens would do well with the A7c" because the A7c is a bit awkward with larger lenses.


Well, the a7c is marginally cheaper than the a7iii in NZ. I'm sometimes tempted by the size (better to take on bicycle) and unlimited video recording times. And I've got some small, compact lenses. But then I reason it's a very expensive way to take a camera with me on bike rides and to get 30+ minutes of recording time.

@addy landzaat
I disagree - to an extend. There were a lot of small great lenses in A-mount: The Minolta 100/2 is not that much bigger then the Sigma (and a full stop faster), the 135/2.8 and the 24/28/50mm primes were also quite small - compare the A-mount 50/1.4 to the FE-mount 50/1.4.


Sure, which is why I qualified my point at the start about new lenses. And for NZ, the small and thin used-lens market meant a lot of the good lenses were never, or very rarely, available for sale. I've never seen a 100/2.8 Soft Focus or 100/2 for sale. And I was up to 2019, trying to collect 'classic Minolta lenses'.

I really did like my Minolta 50/1.4 though.

@addy landzaat
And for the reason I came here. Seeing several reviews of the 90mm I still think it is a difficult sell. It is small and sharp, but it has a lot of distortion, has a slow aperture and is quite expensive. It really is a niche lens. I guess that proofs Wētāpunga's point: there are more (niche) options in FE-mount - as long as it isn't 28mm


I think that is an excellent summary

We can always imagine these products will suit some buyers, but if the niche is too small, it's hard to see how the manufacturer will get a return on it. And in that sense, the 90mm seems an odd choice. It's unique selling point seems to reduce to its size. How much are people really willing to pay to shave off some more mm of the lens length and gms of weight?
α7riii, α9- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
 



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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:


Well, the a7c is marginally cheaper than the a7iii in NZ. I'm sometimes tempted by the size (better to take on bicycle) and unlimited video recording times. And I've got some small, compact lenses. But then I reason it's a very expensive way to take a camera with me on bike rides and to get 30+ minutes of recording time.


Sure, which is why I qualified my point at the start about new lenses. And for NZ, the small and thin used-lens market meant a lot of the good lenses were never, or very rarely, available for sale. I've never seen a 100/2.8 Soft Focus or 100/2 for sale. And I was up to 2019, trying to collect 'classic Minolta lenses'.

I really did like my Minolta 50/1.4 though.



Wētāpunga: I ride my bicycles and motorcycles every week and carry my Minolta Alpha 7 or sometimes, A7R (Or even my Fujica G690!). I don't think it's an issue; you just have to be well prepared. I usually also have a small tripod with me.

I do agree re limited 2nd hand market here though. I bought a Minolta 100mm f2.8 Soft Focue off eBay a while back. It was in fabulous condition and was the cheapest of all on eBay at the time. All we have here is a broken one that has been advertiosed for about a year but hasn't sold. My eBay purchase was about NZ$500 incl freight and it included the manual, a lens bag and the std hood.

However, I was looking through a pile of lenses in an Auckland 2nd hand shop and found a bit of a grubby Minolta AF 24mm f2.8. I offered $90 and that was accepted. I knew it worked as I'd fitted it to my Minolta Alpha 7 in the shop. I was happy to put my 28mm aside and I haven't used it since.

Yep, I also have the AF50mm f1.4 and that's a stunning lens (except for that useless little slide in hood).

Sadly, the cost of freight from Europe and the USA has become almost ridiculous and eBay's 'Priority Shipping Program' offers nothing on top of normal freight/mail, yet adds 15% to my cost! If an item I'm interested in has that as the shipping option, I email the seller and advise that it's a rip off designed only to make extra $ for eBay and, if they would offer me a better freight service: I'd bid. That usually works.

My current task is to update all my 5 contact lenses for D lenses. I'm doing that gradually.
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Posts: 6252 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 September 2021 at 04:42
@Idleidolidyll: It's a bit tricky on my road bicycle as my storage is a saddle bag and the 3 pockets on my cycle top. I've invested in a small camera holster bag though that should be good enough for some rides.

I think that broken 100 soft focus as been for sale for at least 3 years, and at a price of $375 I'm not surprised. There's a couple of sellers with delusional prices (that guy that advertises nearly everything as a 'flagship' lens being one) on TradeMe. Now that I'm not in A-mount I'm even less keen on them.

I did manage to collect a Minolta 20/2.8, 28/2, a 50/2.8M and 100/2.8 macro, a 17-35G, an 85/1.4G, a good beercan (with original metal hood) and the 135 STF from there. I also got a 300/4 G from overseas but it was a pretty pricey deal in the end. Obviously all I have left now is what is in my signature.

You did well to pick up that 24/2.8. I believe its a great little a lens. It was another rarity on TradeMe here.

After my experience with the Minolta 28/2 I got quite used to the focal length, and it seemed to be a good fit between the 20 and 35. Hopefully though we get less lockdowns in the future and I can spend more time taking photos, then doing photography vicariously through lens purchases...
α7riii, α9- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
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