So - How much would you be prepared to pay...?

I have 14 EF lenses so I have some interest in Canon cameras. The R and RP weren't very compelling. I'd rather not buy another memory card. A 7D mark III sounds more interesting to me. The 90D is probably good enough.

I paid $1450 for the A7III + FE 28-70 OSS kit. It is a decent enough EF body.



Edited by QuietOC - 15 May 2020 at 19:45

Well, it seems to be $10,499 in Australian dollars and then they put it through XE.com or something and came up with that $6700 / £5500 number.

But, prices are region specific. The same shop sells the Sony A9 II for AU$8999,- (that is US$5700,-) but B&H sells it for US$4498,-.
They also sell the Canon 1Dx3 for AU$10990,- (that is US$7000,-) and B&H sells it for US$6499,-.
So, even if the Australian price is AU$10499,- it is unlikely the US price is US$6700,-.

Pricing is important. I did (do?) not expect it to be more expensive then the A9 II. It seems it will be. It might be worth it: if it is as good as an A9 II with a higher pixel count and the other specifications. But is there enough of an market there?

Re. the EOS R - it really is a nice camera. It is a compelling camera with some limitations. It was too expensive at launch, but later lower prices made it a great camera. If the limitations are a problem for you, well, yeah, it has those

I do not expect a 7D III. Most people do not expect an 7D III. I would look at a nice used original 1Dx. My R works nicely with EF lenses, as does my A7rIII

owenn01 wrote: So - the question is: How much would you be prepared to pay for a 'new generation' camera body (no lenses etc.)?

Neil, my price would be $0. I've always bought used gear since I'm only a hobbyist and have never earned a penny from photography and neither do I have an inclination to start offering services for money.
For what I do and my skill level, a pretty basic set would more than cover my needs.
I suppose this doesn't add much to the discussion you desire but I guess it does show that not everyone is totally into the latest and greatest gear.

Regards
Sashi

owenn01 wrote: @sybersitizen and Sashi - thanks for the balanced view and that is precisely what I was trying to invoke with the start of the thread.

Ehm, you are saying that their view is balanced because it fits with your opinion. And what is your opinion?

Sybersitizen is saying that he is unwilling to pay the full cost (why is unclear).
Sashi is saying his skill level does not warrant the newest cameras.

What is your reason you do not want the cost of this camera? What would you think is a fair price?

I've been very happy with 2nd hand gear. The 2nd hand market in the Netherlands is very good to excellent in my expirence. Not dirt cheap, but i've picked up some nice glass/body over the last years for about 50% of new price.
My A7iii i was able to buy on my business account (i do some video coaching) which Sony/camerastore offered extra insurance and monthly payment witout intrest. First time a bought a brand new body (just 2 weeks after first introduction of the camera ) Cost 2200euro.

Addy - the point about the phrase 'balanced view' was to hear others opinions, not mine.

And the thread was started just to initiate some healthy and reasoned debate; my view, for what it's worth, is that it seems to be following the path of a lot of items recently (not just cameras) where buy-in costs are excessively high for what seems like small increments for the man in the street. For the Pro's - fine; as mentioned above, they can offset against tax etc. (in those countries that allow such actions) and, hence, they keep ahead of the curve technology-wise.

For us mere mortals, then I too am unprepared to pay those sorts of prices as I neither make money from photography nor do I consider myself as someone who wishes to show that I have the means to buy such an item. Skill? That's a different debate and not for here as far as I'm concerned.

So - personally, I'm not asking people to judge one another for what they purchase - I'm here to view their images, enjoy them and, if possible, add another viewpoint to what I see; that Members on here can take such wonderful and inspiring images on such a diverse range of systems/lenses is a testament to the fact that technology isn't the answer in many cases. Is the R5 an advancement? Probably. But at what price do people value that advancement - that was all I was trying to see from a diverse range of people (as that is what we have in our Membership).

And fair price? What someone is prepared to pay for it I guess. You know - you only ever 'need' your first camera; almost everything else after that is possibly 'want' I guess.

Take care all and, please, stay safe and well - you've all got so much more work and inspiration inside you to share.

Best regards, Neil.

addy landzaat wrote: Sybersitizen is saying that he is unwilling to pay the full cost (why is unclear).

The reason is it wouldn't be money well spent. My purchase of a 'new generation' camera in 2010 was money well spent because it allowed me to shoot things that were problematic for my previous camera. However, ever since then, I've been able to accomplish the things I want to do with 'old generation' cameras costing much less.