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    Posted: 09 February 2023 at 20:41
I videoed my first paid gig yesterday with the FX30 and have some more thoughts on it.

The actual recording wasn't challenging- a person talking against a blue backdrop so it was pretty much just pointing the camera at the subject and occasionally panning if the speaker drifted a bit to the right or left.

What was interesting is that it was practically 4 and a half hours of continuous footage. So the camera not limiting recordings to 29 minutes was essential, and also the silent fans in the camera body to prevent over-heating.

Maintaining power supply was easy- I used a Smallrig dummy battery and attached it to a charging plate I could screw on the battery-side of the camera. (It has 5 tripod-style holes on the frame). Then slot a Sony NPF-750 battery into the charging plate. After 5 hours of the camera on, mostly recording video, I was still on 37% power.

One incredibly useful feature is 3 lights on the body illuminate when its recording. So if you pause, and the speaker resumes, you can spot whether you have started recording again. This happened once when I hadn't, so we could go back to the start without wasting too much time.

The footage, in S-Cinetone (also captured by my Zeiss Loxia 25/2 ) looks great. The focusing and aperture rings (declicked) in the Loxia are so good for video. You get a very smooth action with no jerking.

The external monitor worked well, but its battery did die about 3/4 through, so I switched to the camera's screen. Which because it can be positioned to the side and rotated, isn't that bad. I'd still prefer an external monitor for a lengthy job though.

For the sound, I used a Sennheiser MKE600 shotgun microphone, which I attached to a Zoom H5 fieldrecorder, and fed that into the camera. It also meant I had a backup audio source if necessary... So I don't know how good the amps in the camera really are.

I liked the convenience of not having to use a camera cage. Here's what it looks like before mounting the extras.

The charging plate for the camera is to the side, the cold shoe is to mount the shotgun microphone and the last part is to mount a smallrig handle, to which I'd attach the monitor and H5 field recorder.

All in all a very positive experience with the FX30. I'm glad I didn't try it with the a7Riii...

Edited by Wētāpunga - 18 February 2023 at 02:39
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Even with dedicated video cameras "accessories" are the important part. Can you use a cell phone as a monitor with it? In the old days there was the "Sony PlayMemories App".... An old unused cell phone is good for wifi and bluetooth, but if it's old the battery may not last long, but you can plug it in.

Some people put the Zoom on the table, so it's completely a backup, with lavalier mics or with the ones on the recorder.

4-1/2 hours is way too long LOL - that's one long interview! The fans seem like it finally solves the overheating problems, good job Sony (wait did I say that LOL)!
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Thanks Paul, yes I agree, you need accessories to get the footage needed.

The monitor uses a Sony L-series battery (just as the LED lights I used do, and the external battery for the camera). I just used the smallest size to save weight, so if I'd been prepared I could have used a larger battery, or had a replacement on hand. Or even power it through a power bank into the USB input. The monitor gives a lot more feedback on what you're recording than the simple Play Memory app.

It wasn't really an interview, just a couple of dozen short presentations for viewing online. But filmed mostly continuously. So I was conscious I couldn't call for a break if the camera overheated. We went over time as it was...

I was really pleased that the camera operated flawlessly. I think it's a good option for someone wanting to branch out into some serious videography but still maintain stills photography as their main field. It's much cheaper than the a7Riii or FX3 and the footage is good enough for commercial work.

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Hello!

Thanks for sharing

Im having trouble with a Neewer NPF970 battery with my fx30, percentage drops pretty fast.

Im using the Kondor Blue NPFZ100 dummy d tap adapter to the Anycine BP NPF but some how the FX30 drains too much voltage or I don't know what's happening but the internal NPFZ100 battery last longer than a 6600mah NPF

Did you make any adjustment in the camera so it could read better battery percentage or my Neewer battery could be faulty?

I mean it says 7.4 volts and the Z100 battery say 7.2... voltage should't be a problem but somehow its the only explanation I could find..

Same story on my a6600.

Z100 fully drained multimeter reads 5.4 volts, and still turn on the camera... NPF970 with 7.45 v read won't turn it on... and andycine adapter reads 3/4 charge led (50-75% remaining)

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Hi @gazbel.

That is a puzzle, and it sounds like the problem is with the Neewer Battery. I use a third-party L-battery also- Wasabi. After 4 hours and a half hours of recording, it was still at 37%. Which is better than what the NPFZV100 can do.
I did notice that the FX-30 only likes Sony Z100 batteries as well, as the Wasabi I have as backup, displayed no battery percentage and I got a warning message from the camera. It was odd, because the same battery works with no problem in my a9 and a7Riii.

I'm not familiar with your Dummy Battery either- it looks like a brand that isn't available in NZ.
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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

I did notice that the FX-30 only likes Sony Z100 batteries as well, as the Wasabi I have as backup, displayed no battery percentage and I got a warning message from the camera. It was odd, because the same battery works with no problem in my a9 and a7Riii.
I don't have FX-30, but my experience with other Sony cameras that use NP-FZ100 and third party batteries (Hähnel and Nitecore) is that the camera warns that this may be incompatible battery and whether to continue or shut down, but apart from the accurate battery charge display in percentage, these do work okey.
 



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@Hezu

My experience of the Wasabi batteries in the a9 and a7Riii is they work just as the Sony NP-FZ100sand I get no warnings.
In the FX-30 the Wasabi battery won't show the battery charge symbol or percentage left, and the camera shows a serious warning.

I also have no problem using the Smallrig Dummy Battery connected to the Smallrig charging plate, and a Wasabi battery.   
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Post Options Post Options   Quote gazbel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 March 2023 at 07:23
Thank you very much, i appreciate your kind and quick answare.

I'll try with different NPF brand.

I dont se anyone talking about this so im going to asume either my adapter, dummy or battery are failing, bc the fx30 works fine with the original NPFZ100...

ill let you know my findings
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