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    Posted: 11 August 2019 at 22:15
Hello everyone. I'd like to buy a telephoto lens. The main reason is to shoot landscapes at 135 mm, a focal length I really like for these shots. I don't want to spend much money as I'd use it occasionally.
I was thinking at Sony 55-210 OSS but I'm finding messy reviews of this lens apart from dyxum users (which is very good!)
I don't need a fast lens as I have a Sigma 60/2.8 that I eventually plan to upgrade to FE 85 to shoot portaits on my a6000.
To me, at the same price the drawbacks of no oss and mf of a vintage lens are too huge wrt to the Sony zoom.
Any thought?
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I bought one to use with my NEX 7 when I'm travelling light not long after they came out .
While I'm not a pixel peeper I have absolutely no issues with image quality when I'm processing them .
I was pleasantly surprised by it , especially considering price .
Nice clean files , quite sharp with good contrast .
I always stop the lens down a bit for general use , though I don't think there's any issues when I'm using it for closer focusing wide open for shallower DOF .
Focusing is quite decent on the NEX 7 and should be quite a bit faster on the a6000 .
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I am sure they vary, but my 55-210 OSS is sharp wide-open.

I have a Minolta MD 135 F3.5. It is not as good as the AF 135 F2.8, but it is ok. It is pretty small. I also like the MD 50-135 F3.5. The Vivitar 70-150 F3.8's are pretty small.

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I'm pretty happy with my 55-210 also. It's very sharp and quick focussing but sloooooow in aperture, and the OSS is brilliant through the viewfinder (unlike A-mount where IBIS works only on the image taken). It's uncanny the way the view stops jiggling about when you half-press the shutter!

For comparison I've just bought a Soligor 135mm f2.8 PK-fit MF lens (£20 in lovely condition from my local branch of LCE) which was also one of my favourite FLs on the Miranda SLRs. It's quite handy, but it needs a higher shutter speed which means no more benefit in light-gathering than the 55-210, and though it is quite sharp for an MF lens, it won't take 100% crops wide open either, so if you judge by those, again you need f5.6 or more which is the same as the 55-210.

I like using MF lenses on the Nex (though I didn't so much on the A58 - go figure!) but for practicality the zoom beats it much of the time (thin DOF is the exception!). Sony's recent cheap zooms are also amazingly sharp - usually at least as sharp as MF primes at the same aperture.

There's not a lot else with OSS at the price in that FL, though there are plenty of A-mount lenses available if you're happy with an adaptor.
And FWIW I rarely get blurred or soft pictures with the 55-210 unless I've messed up. Usually whatever I've focused on is pin-sharp.

As an aside, a 135mm f2.8 on APS_C has the same angle of view, light gathering power and DOF as a 200mm f4 on FF (got two of those as well ), but it's much smaller and lighter.   

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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2019 at 14:51
The A6000 is a problem for adapting lenses. Yongnuo has a new inexpensive adapter for EF lenses. They list compatibility with the A6000 for it with some lenses.

I was impressed with the Yongnuo 50mm F1.4, but the electronic aperture didn't work with my Sigma MC-11. They are claiming A6000 compatibility with several Canon telephoto zooms including the 55-250 IS STM.

The EF 135 F2L is listed and those seem to be available for less than $500 used. It looks like my $170 EF 100 F2 USM is also compatible.



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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

... the OSS is brilliant through the viewfinder (unlike A-mount where IBIS works only on the image taken). It's uncanny the way the view stops jiggling about when you half-press the shutter!

Just FYI, the newer A-mount bodies provide a different IBIS system with the option of stabilization before the exposure, with a shutter half press.
 



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I decided against the 55-210 as all decent reports state it is a typical kit lens: IQ okayish with sample variation.
Then I looked at the 70-300 OSS, it is better, but also bigger and quite expensive.

That 135mm, is that on APS-C or is it equivalent? As the 85mm is (almost) like a 135mm on APS-C. In that case, just get the 85/1.8 (I find it a bit big on the A6000, but if it is the FL you want...).

And if you're on 135mm, get a 135mm lens. Late manual focus lenses are quite good: Minolta MD 135/2.8, Zeiss Contax 135/2.8 etc.
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Probably should also look at the 18-135 OSS.
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I was thinking at 18 135 but I don 't need the other focals apart 135mm.

I just wonder if I can find a MF lens that is better than the 55210 for the same money.

For 120 I think I'll give a try to the 55210
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 August 2019 at 21:28
Well, you could opt for a Minolta MD 135/3.5 for 20 GBP (22) and an MD to NEX adapter for 12 GBP (13) over at Ffordes - I do not know how much shipping is, but lets say it is 20, it is in total just 55,-.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote artuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2019 at 09:49
Originally posted by Barrin Barrin wrote:

I was thinking at 18 135 but I don 't need the other focals apart 135mm.

I just wonder if I can find a MF lens that is better than the 55210 for the same money.

For 120 I think I'll give a try to the 55210


If you don't need the other focal lengths, I assume you already have a lens in that range.

Could you trade that against an 18-135? In my recent experience with that lens, it's very good across its entire focal length range, the OSS is extremely good (1/10s at 200mm equivalent) and is as good as or better than other lenses in its range.

The only issue I've found with it is excessive blooming on night shots, I assume caused by reflections with the lens or interaction with the sensor glass cover. Other than that, it's a simply excellent one lens solution if you don't need fast apertures for shallow DOF.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2019 at 12:44
Originally posted by Barrin Barrin wrote:

I was thinking at 18 135 but I don 't need the other focals apart 135mm.

I just wonder if I can find a MF lens that is better than the 55210 for the same money.

For 120 I think I'll give a try to the 55210


I've used many 135mm primes, and in film days, some of them were exceptionally sharp. The problem is, now that people have 24Mp digital cameras, that those same lenses no longer seem that sharp
Plus, the surprising truth is, that many of the cheap kit zooms are extremely sharp in the 100-135mm region when used at f8, and wide open they'd often sharper than the old MF lenses are wide open.

Yes, you can always find things you don't like about cheap zooms, but old primes (even expensive ones) have their faults too.

I'd suggest you try the SEL 55-210, do some tests on it, and find the best aperture for your shots. Oh, btw, for sharpness, the old SLRgear lens tests with blur chart, now at imaging-resource.com are worth chekcing out, so long as you appreciate that they usually test one lens and there will be variations.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote artuk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 September 2019 at 15:55
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by Barrin Barrin wrote:

I was thinking at 18 135 but I don 't need the other focals apart 135mm.

I just wonder if I can find a MF lens that is better than the 55210 for the same money.

For 120 I think I'll give a try to the 55210


I've used many 135mm primes, and in film days, some of them were exceptionally sharp. The problem is, now that people have 24Mp digital cameras, that those same lenses no longer seem that sharp
Plus, the surprising truth is, that many of the cheap kit zooms are extremely sharp in the 100-135mm region when used at f8, and wide open they'd often sharper than the old MF lenses are wide open.

Yes, you can always find things you don't like about cheap zooms, but old primes (even expensive ones) have their faults too.

I'd suggest you try the SEL 55-210, do some tests on it, and find the best aperture for your shots. Oh, btw, for sharpness, the old SLRgear lens tests with blur chart, now at imaging-resource.com are worth chekcing out, so long as you appreciate that they usually test one lens and there will be variations.


I like those IR tests with the interactive chart - a really good way of separating internet opinion from some test fact.

It's amazing just how good the original E 18-200mm lens was (and the versions that followed were never as good!).

Alas they haven't tested the 55-210mm.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Barrin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 September 2019 at 16:21
I'm trying a Minolta 100 200/4.5 bought mint at 20. If it does not satifies my needs i will use it with my 3xi and give a try to 55210
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