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    Posted: 11 July 2019 at 12:36
this arrived today. Couple of questions you might be able to help me with..

what are the 3 round buttons on the barrel?

it doesn't have a grip.. was this an extra?
 



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https://www.sony.co.uk/electronics/support/res/manuals/4449/44498040M.pdf

If by grip you mean a tripod mount my original 70-400 G came with one.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jozioau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 12:57
You should have a look at the detailed page on the Dyxum lens data base here Sony AF 70-400mm F4-5.6 G SSM II.
There are several detailed technical reviews hot-linked for you to read, that include all the lens controls, optics and features.
The three round buttons on the barrel are focus hold buttons. When you lock focus on your subjects you can lock it by pressing any one of them.
What do you mean about the grip? The lens has a ribbed rubber focus grip as well as a ribbed rubber zoom grip on the main barrel.
Do you mean the detachable, rotatable tripod mount collar?
If that's what you mean, the lens should definitely have that. if you bought it new it is included in the factory packaging together with the front and rear lens caps and the petal lens hood.
If it was bought second hand and was omitted, presumably it was advertised as such, and the second hand price would have been reduced accordingly. If it was sold 'as new' but this important component is missing, you should be able to get your money back.
A replacement tripod mount collar can be purchased separately but is expensive.
And you definitely do need one of you're going to be using it on a tripod or monopod.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote beccles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 13:03
by grip i mean what looks like a small handle underneath as in the pic.. i thought it was a grip but i guess it's a tripod mount!

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Yes, that's the tripod mount which is detachable and also capable of being rotated for portrait oriented images when mounted on a tripod.
It is an integral part of this lens and should be included.
As I said above, if this was bought second hand and the part was missing, the advertised description should have clearly stated so, and the price should have reflected it.
If you were led to believe you were getting the full kit without the listing saying it was missing, you should have recourse to consumer protection for false advertising.
A genuine replacement from Sony costs an arm and a leg, but I've seen that you can buy third party compatible ones for a lot less via Amazon (GBP 34.00). Main difference is they are black. https://www.amazon.co.uk/iShoot-70-400mm-SAL70400G-SAL70400G2-ARCA-SWISS/dp/B07K9NQQ33
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 14:42
Originally posted by Jozioau Jozioau wrote:

Yes, that's the tripod mount which is detachable and also capable of being rotated for portrait oriented images when mounted on a tripod.
It is an integral part of this lens and should be included.
As I said above, if this was bought second hand and the part was missing, the advertised description should have clearly stated so, and the price should have reflected it.
If you were led to believe you were getting the full kit without the listing saying it was missing, you should have recourse to consumer protection for false advertising.
A genuine replacement from Sony costs an arm and a leg, but I've seen that you can buy third party compatible ones for a lot less via Amazon (GBP 34.00). Main difference is they are black. https://www.amazon.co.uk/iShoot-70-400mm-SAL70400G-SAL70400G2-ARCA-SWISS/dp/B07K9NQQ33
But the advantage is that they are arca swiss (and you do not need the to use the adapter).

I, by the way, use the tripod mount as a grip, it helps balancing the camera in the hand when you use it.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote beccles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 15:05
got it second hand.. didn't mention that the part was missing in the description, but it wasn't in the photos, so i won't bother chasing as i got the lens, which looks fine, for 740, good price for the SSM2s i've seen..
it's mainly for birding while i'm out walking, and for an upcoming africa trip so unlikely i'll use a tripod as i never did on my tmron sp 70=300
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Post Options Post Options   Quote owenn01 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 15:09
Hi al,

You might want to try holding it for a while to see about that last remark; it's a heavy old thing and I definitely know when it's been on my camera for an hour or more! Good muscle training though...!

One thing for sure - you'll love the image quality

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Post Options Post Options   Quote beccles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 15:11
yeah.. think i might be putting some extra padding on the shoulder strap :-)
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I had the same situation - bought a used one without the tripod mount, and then bought one of the black after market mounts. Works fine.
Even when I carry it I attach my strap - Rapid Strap - to the lens's tripod mount instead of the body. Much easier on the neck and shoulder.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote beccles Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 20:03
looking at the mount, and the rapid strap i'm wondering how you safely attach the strap so the camera/lens doesn't fall off when you're clambering over fences etc?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jozioau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 July 2019 at 22:06
You should definitely buy a tripod mount collar like the one I referenced in my earlier post.
It provides an anchor point at the centre of gravity of the lens plus camera when using a sling strap like a Black Rapid or Sun Sniper. Without the collar, this lens is strongly front heavy and out of balance if your strap is fastened to the camera base or eyelets.
Also, the mount collar is a structural element free of the lens body. You can mount it on a tripod, monopod or rest the lens on a beanbag or a solid surface, leaving the focus and zoom grips free to rotate as you focus and frame your shot.
It is an integral and functional component that is definitely needed.
Apart from this, enjoy your new lens.
I would also recommend checking for micro focus adjustment, but once youíve confirmed thatís right, it is brilliantly sharp.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Atom Ant Oz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2019 at 02:58
Originally posted by beccles beccles wrote:

it's mainly for birding while i'm out walking, and for an upcoming africa trip so unlikely i'll use a tripod as i never did on my tmron sp 70=300

When I'm birding with my 70400G, I'll usually have at least a monopod - it supports the weight of the lens while I'm pointing it up. I haven't used the Tamron 70-300, but I do have the Sony 70-300G which doesn't demand support like its bigger sibling does. The extra weight of the 70-400G makes a difference (for me anyway).

It's worth adding a few more grams to the lens to have the tripod mount, and it's a bonus if the 3rd party version is Arca-compatible (although not for me because my monopod head uses a different plate )
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Atom Ant Oz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 July 2019 at 03:02
I just followed the link for the i-Shoot tripod mount; it looks like it provides a bit more finger space than the Sony version. Can anyone confirm that?
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