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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 03:48
I am just waiting for the replacement on the A900...as LV is a complete turn off, and the new body/GUI design is not what I have come to love about the Alpha line...I would sell my a700 and 16-80 and pick up an a900 for about the sale price + a little $...if I am lucky

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 04:34
I think the serie 800 will be FF but low resolution models and the serie 700 will continue be APS-C.

Between 7th and 11th of September, it is my date...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 04:53
Originally posted by Alexramos Alexramos wrote:

Between 7th and 11th of September, it is my date...


Are you talking about the announcement or the availability?...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 04:56
I do not see A900 replacement anytime soon - it is a relatively new camera as compared to A700, and the higher up the lineup, the less frequent are updates. I think we are 3 years away from any A800/A1000/A930/whatever.

First we'll see a 5 level camera, maybe 2 - in time for this holiday season possibly. Then 7 would be updated. Then entry level refreshed again. Then maybe we'll be able to even begin making reasonable guesses about the introduction of any new cams above 7 level
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 05:17
Originally posted by rovhazman rovhazman wrote:

Originally posted by Alexramos Alexramos wrote:

Between 7th and 11th of September, it is my date...


Are you talking about the announcement or the availability?...


Announcement...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 05:19
What I find odd is the Nikon D3x just came out, and already the D4 is scheduled with a new 30mp or some such thing sensor (which Sony probably made)...so Sony should be putting out a 30mp FF camera soonish...but seriously...I am happy with my A700 and would only bump up to an a900 when/if the replacement for the a900 came about
 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 05:20
There is no D4 scheduled.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 05:26
rumors of...I'd probably just upgrade to FF glass before a new camera...and I don't believe rumors until the company actually leaks something...this actually has something behind it, usually you can search Sony global and something may be out there, but in this case, nothing...I see an official word from Sony soon regarding whatever this camera is
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 05:32
A new D4 would be a sports camera with lower rez than the D3x. Pushing 10fps at 30mp would be outrageous.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 06:34
Let's examine from another viewpoint: lens. Sony has been pretty spot on in their mock-up and subsequent release of lens: CZs released as planned, recent DTs are more than just concept design (Don't kill me on the two missing wide-angle primes).

So if Sony feels that there is a need to release the 28-75/2.8, won't that only make sense if it serves as a kit lens for FF (it is a strange focal length for APS-C kit). And it is clearly intended to be a lower end model than the CZ2470. Assuming that the 28-75 is intended to be a kit lens, then it would make better sense if the new body (A850?) is position lower than A900.

Hence my guess is that the A850 will be FF.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 06:53
The 28-75 could be a hint. But it was also a kit lens for the 7D back in the day in it's KM form. The 28-75 will just plain be an odd lens, as what folks really want to see is the 4/24-105G.

The possibility of an A850 being an A900 with smaller view finder and pop up flash, for a few hundred less is a possibility I suppose, just not that thrilling.

If it's a FF body, it would all but kill the A900 assuming it would be a bit cheaper.   It would have to be the same price and be something like a lower resolution model to not kill the A900. And that path doesn't sound likely.

I've said in the past I think the A900 will be a short lived model, maybe that will pan out quicker than I thought.

Now one thing to keep in mind is that 4.5/500G SSM.   That would need a matching camera. And that's what would make me think this is a high end APS camera. Something that sorta picks up the Nikon D2X/D2H torch of High End APS body.

That could be the coup here. Sony could leap past the semi-pro 7 series and make a very pre-ish APS body to fill a niche no one else is now.

Maybe have a common sensor to a A550, "A700 replacement, and this camera. But it has things like has a built in grip, and 10fps.

I think all of use could just keep dreaming up different possibilities (look how many I have come up with). Options are somewhat endless.

Heck, maybe the thought that Even numbers are EVILs happens, and Sony launches an EVIL Pro pro body, this one using the 24MP FF sensor, has been optimized for AF with help from the video group. Does 4k 24P video too. Pack some special Zeiss lenses too.   Then make a Super fast Sports shooter low res model.

Really, it could be anything.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 07:57
my quess about a850:

- 16-17 mpx FF.
- a900 stylish body (thats why they call it a850 -> its a900 - 50)
- Live-view (and possible video also)
- 6fps/8fps
- New AF system, more like should be in "sport cameras"..

Thats is. Thats all I need.
IQ could be awesome with almost as low noise as in Nikon D700 and finally we would have a camera with great AF for fast sport&birding.
Yes, definetly couple new optics would be released also, maybe one pro-level long prime like 400/2.8 or 500/4.. some new Zeiss also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 08:04
Originally posted by AlexKarasev AlexKarasev wrote:

I do not see A900 replacement anytime soon - it is a relatively new camera as compared to A700, and the higher up the lineup, the less frequent are updates. I think we are 3 years away from any A800/A1000/A930/whatever.

First we'll see a 5 level camera, maybe 2 - in time for this holiday season possibly. Then 7 would be updated. Then entry level refreshed again. Then maybe we'll be able to even begin making reasonable guesses about the introduction of any new cams above 7 level

I think you are wrong here. Yes, a900 is relatively new but Iam sure we will soon see a new FF. A FF that will not directly compete against a900, so it is not a replacement in any means.
Sony needs a camera that is more like a "sport" camera. That series is totally missing and Sony cannot compete Canon without this kind of cameras.
So, camera with new AF and lower pixel rate is coming... and I think this a850 leak proves that, it just cant be fake!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 July 2009 at 08:25
Sony a900 is a good camera for a good price. That's why it is not that easy to make sub-a900 FF camera. Simple cosmetic changes or smaller viewfinder isn't enough.
IF the a850 is FF camera, than I can see only two ways how Sony could make it. First, and very unlikely, that the a850 have similar spec to the a900, but with lower MP sensor. That's good news for those, who are lasting for low-light FF camera. Bad news - we haven't heard anything about new sensor from Sony.
Second way is to "cut" down a900 features. For example to cut one of two BIONZ processors, use less advanced autofocus system (but again, I don't believe that Sony Would do that) and some other things. You would get cheaper camera, but considerably slower and less advanced.
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