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Well I guessed wrong. It's half the camera I thought it would be. I'm both impressed and disappointed. This A1 is what I expected in the A9II considering the A99II (2016) had the 42MP ISO, 100-25600 (expandable to 50-102400) 12.0 fps.
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So, they'll keep the a7 vanilla/R/S models as normal/landscape/video models.
And the a9 as a sports model?
The a1 is the A7S+A7R?

Or does the a9 disappear now? I've never looked at the a9 specs (just the price).

Or does the body line-up change in a different way?
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Well I guessed wrong. It's half the camera I thought it would be. I'm both impressed and disappointed. This A1 is what I expected in the A9II considering the A99II (2016) had the 42MP ISO, 100-25600 (expandable to 50-102400) 12.0 fps.


Your expectation are based on which arbitrary ISO range they put on the cameras?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2021 at 16:21
Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

So, they'll keep the a7 vanilla/R/S models as normal/landscape/video models.
And the a9 as a sports model?
The a1 is the A7S+A7R?

Or does the a9 disappear now? I've never looked at the a9 specs (just the price).

Or does the body line-up change in a different way?


It seems to be an A9R for sports.

It is no replacement for the S models as it can't do full-pixel readout full-frame 4k video. It seems silly to buy this as a Super 35 camera. Anyone into video who doesn't want to deal with 8K files would pick the SIII.
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Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Well I guessed wrong. It's half the camera I thought it would be. I'm both impressed and disappointed. This A1 is what I expected in the A9II considering the A99II (2016) had the 42MP ISO, 100-25600 (expandable to 50-102400) 12.0 fps.


Your expectation are based on which arbitrary ISO range they put on the cameras?

My expectations were based on the a99 24MP, a99II 42MP: A7R 36MP A7RII 42MP, A7RIV 61MP VS the A9 24MP and A9II 24MP.

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It's clearly Sony's camera for the Olympics, if they go ahead. Just like the A9 II was announced ahead of the then expected 2020 Olympics.
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So still plenty of reason to keep the A7, R, S, and A9 in the line-up then with the A1. A1 being a specialist A7R/A9 hybrid?

I glossed over during the video bits, I watch YouTube at 480p. And I think DVDs are 480p too. As a sub-1080p viewer its all just random numbers (and huge files) to me.

(must not forget the A5 which they mistakenly called the A7C)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2021 at 17:13
Recently there was a thread about lens contentment and this announcement made me realise that for my photography my A7ii and A7Rii are all I need at the moment. I'm mostly using (older SLR/rangefinder) manual focus lenses and for the times I use AF it's mostly AF-S on nearly static subjects anyway. I don't do video so that is also not a reason to upgrade.

I know there's plenty people who do use all the advanced features so it's a very good thing that Sony keeps developing mirrorless bodies but I don't feel the same excitement anymore with this announcement that I felt when the A700 or A900 came out or when they added IBIS to the A7 line. In a way that's a pity, because being excited by a new camera can be inspiring as well.

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It should be a good fit with the 200-600G and 2X TC for bird photos. The A1 supports phase-detect at F16, so 1200mm F13 would not be pushing the limit. And it has bird Eye AF too.

I used the 200-600G + 1.4X TC with the A7RII the other day, and the combination was alright with static subjects. It is the sharpest, fastest 840mm F9 lens I've used. I used MF to get a squirrel eye in focus. Steady Shot was effective enough for that.



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Strange name A1. SInce it is Sony it means it is the lowest camera.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Howard_S Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2021 at 18:15
Originally posted by T Snijder T Snijder wrote:

Strange name A1. SInce it is Sony it means it is the lowest camera.
I think it is used to denote the first in a line. The DSC-R1 was a high-end camera. Also more recently the RX1 and RX1 R.
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Originally posted by dCap dCap wrote:

I glossed over during the video bits, I watch YouTube at 480p. And I think DVDs are 480p too. As a sub-1080p viewer its all just random numbers (and huge files) to me.
You should watch in 1080... much better.

Some were disappointed by the body, but I think the A7rIV body style is fine.

Interesting: it is the first Sony camera to offer Lossless compress Raw and can also capture HEIF for 10-bit compressed capture.
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

Well I guessed wrong. It's half the camera I thought it would be. I'm both impressed and disappointed. This A1 is what I expected in the A9II considering the A99II (2016) had the 42MP ISO, 100-25600 (expandable to 50-102400) 12.0 fps.


Your expectation are based on which arbitrary ISO range they put on the cameras?

My expectations were based on the a99 24MP, a99II 42MP: A7R 36MP A7RII 42MP, A7RIV 61MP VS the A9 24MP and A9II 24MP.


I consider the a9ii as a midlife revamp (similar to the Nikon S scheme back in the days). A1 quadruples frame rate and data throughput compared to the a99ii and it can capture three times as many frames before the buffer is full. Thatís a pretty solid upgrade which certainly would have been nice to have at the a9ii price point, but perhaps also a bit much to expect?
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