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    Posted: 23 May 2021 at 12:30
It looks Sony will release a 28/1.8G shortly. I was waiting for that one.

I never grew attached to the common 28/2 even if it is fine lens, I feel it has to many compromises. I do not like 24mm, it to me is a useless focallength, not wide enough but with the disadvantages of a wide angle. 28mm is the ultimate wide-normal lens. I was hoping for an f/1.4 and because of the 28/2 I thought there was a good chance - but alas.

Curious about the price. It would be a nice addition to my 20/1.8G, 55/1.8CZ and 85G. Just waiting for the 200/2.8G after this
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If you have an A7RIV just crop a little from the 24/1.4
You'll still have slightly shallower DoF than f1.8
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I am interested. I like the 1.8/20 G, and don't love the 2/28 though it generally seems to work fine. I am also interested in the Samyang 24 F1.8. So many options!
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

If you have an A7RIV just crop a little from the 24/1.4
You'll still have slightly shallower DoF than f1.8
Hmmm, I could just use my 20/1.8 and crop. In fact, that would be better then the 24/1.4GM as I could simply use the APS-C crop and have a nice viewfinder view. And crop, and crop, and sell my 55/1.8 and 85/1.8.

Without kidding, I do not understand the rise of 24mm. Probably because most phones have a focallength between 24 and 28mm. But I would prefer a 28-85/2.8 normal lens over a 24-70/2.8 one. But it seems I am in a minority.

Also, I hope the lens is less money then the 24/1.4GM
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28mm is the one I can easily live without, give me 24mm any day.
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Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

28mm is the one I can easily live without, give me 24mm any day.
So, nothing to see here for you. But I do not understand..... 24mm has no use, if I want something moderately wide, it is too wide, if I want something wide it is not wide enough. 24mm is here nor there. But as usual YMMV an it seems it does
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It seems a lot of us are waiting for a 200mm f2.8.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

If you have an A7RIV just crop a little from the 24/1.4
You'll still have slightly shallower DoF than f1.8
Hmmm, I could just use my 20/1.8 and crop. In fact, that would be better then the 24/1.4GM as I could simply use the APS-C crop and have a nice viewfinder view. And crop, and crop, and sell my 55/1.8 and 85/1.8.

Without kidding, I do not understand the rise of 24mm. Probably because most phones have a focal length between 24 and 28mm. But I would prefer a 28-85/2.8 normal lens over a 24-70/2.8 one. But it seems I am in a minority.

Also, I hope the lens is less money then the 24/1.4GM


you could but your DoF will be deeper. I am assuming you are wanting f1.8 lenses for the f1.8 rather than for f2.8 (in which case the current 28mm f2 would be plenty good). And you could crop to 55 and 85mm but you may like having a few more megapixels

but yes you are in the minority. I like 24mm but I can live without it. I swapped my 24-105mm for the 28-200mm. Definitely miss the 24mm on occasions but its not end of the world.

considering its a G lens (as supposed to GM) and a f1.8 it'll be cheaper.

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

28mm is the one I can easily live without, give me 24mm any day.
So, nothing to see here for you. But I do not understand..... 24mm has no use, if I want something moderately wide, it is too wide, if I want something wide it is not wide enough. 24mm is here nor there. But as usual YMMV an it seems it does


you can make a similar argument against any focal length tbh.
I feel the same way about 50mm for example yet its one of the most popular focal lengths(??)

Similarly I think 24mm is more popular than 28mm in general. Its a focal length I quite like too.
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It is really hard to argue against anything you say, Anand.

I wanted and expected a f/1.4 as the DoF difference between that and the f/2 is more significant. But I can live with f/1.8. The biggest problem with the 28/2 is that it is so uninspiring. It is good for what it is, a cheap lens, but then.....

I feel 35mm is the most popular focallength, but again, I usually prefer 28mm. But 35mm surely has its place. I feel 35mm lenses should be small as it is a run-and-gun focallength. But I keep on saying YMMV
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

It looks Sony will release a 28/1.8G shortly. I was waiting for that one.


I think I'm interested in a 28mm. Not compulsively so, but I used to use the old Minolta 28/2 on my cameras and found it useful. It bridged the gap between the 20/2.8 and the 35s. The 24mm never really did.

Now with a 21 and 35 Loxia, the same gap exists in my E-mount. Likewise, the shots I've seen of the Sony 28/2 FE lens just haven't gripped me.
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Originally posted by minolta_mutley minolta_mutley wrote:

It seems a lot of us are waiting for a 200mm f2.8.


A prime lens longer than 135mm would be nice. 200 would hit a sweet spot.
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Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

A prime lens longer than 135mm would be nice. 200 would hit a sweet spot.
Hey, there are primes longer than 135 mm for E mount: Sony FE 2.8/400 GM OSS and Sony FE 4/600 GM OSS.

Ok, I agree there is quite a gap between 135 mm and those expensive supertelephotos.
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Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

28mm is the one I can easily live without, give me 24mm any day.
So, nothing to see here for you. But I do not understand..... 24mm has no use, if I want something moderately wide, it is too wide, if I want something wide it is not wide enough. 24mm is here nor there. But as usual YMMV an it seems it does


You perfectly sum up my feelings about 28mm.
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