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Originally posted by Rex Rex wrote:

I asked my Sony dealer which models will be updated for Screw drive AF lens with LA-ea5 and he asked Sony Europe and ....

the answer was definitely the a9 & a9II

Finger crossed for the updated


The sooner the better as far as I am concerned. Sony really need to show some goodwill here.
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LA-EA5 has arrived. I'm going to use this on the 7RIV and the EA4r on the a9.
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Originally posted by gigo gigo wrote:

LA-EA5 has arrived. I'm going to use this on the 7RIV and the EA4r on the a9.


Lucky you. I am still waiting for mine.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote C_N_RED_AGAIN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 November 2020 at 11:48
Originally posted by Rex Rex wrote:

I asked on my Sony dealer which models will be updated for Screw drive AF lens with LA-ea5 and he asked Sony Europe and ....

the answer was definitely the a9 & a9II
Finger crossed for the updated


If the 9 is included that will be a game changer. Itís the only camera I feel confidant enough in the af department to truly maximize these older lenses performance.
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Originally posted by Photosopher Photosopher wrote:

Sony didn't sell this LA-EA5 earlier because the E-Mount wasn't fully developed on the lens lineup at the time.

I would rebuy (or have kept) the 28/2, 24/2ZA, 35/2, 85/1.4, all the 2.8 G zooms... But unless I absolutely needed hard infinity focus stops, my replacement EMount versions of 28/2, 35/1.8, 24/1.4, 85/1.8 are surely better optical performers all around... aside from the 24mm perhaps. And the Tamron f2.8 zoom trio reminds me so much of my Maxxum 2.8 zoom trio that I have no need to revisit them... except perhaps for linear manual focus control.

I consider it a fact that selling this adapter earlier would have cut hard into the sales of the early E lenses, and given good reason for not considering the newer lenses. So I'll use this adapter to fill the gaps of what still can't be had with E... 200/2.8, 100/2...

Very suspicious this adapter now available after Monster... And most importantly, new Canon R system with adapters, which could easily tempt the A-Mount loyalists away... As it almost did me.


I agree with this. The 200 2.8 and maybe the 100 f2 are the only lenses Sony/tamron/sigma havenít released that would make this adapter viable to me. All the modern offering are far superior to their old Minolta counterparts. Maybe throw in the 600f4 as the cost of the Sony version is very prohibitive.
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Amazon surprised me with the LA-EA5 yesterday. There was no shipping notice or anything. The last I heard from them, they asked my approval for a shipping delay until December because the item was backordered.

Hooray for good surprises (and for being home so it didn't disappear from my porch)!

I'll have time this weekend to test it out thoroughly, weather permitting. But my gut impressions from just briefly trying out several lenses are as follows:


1. Hunting is noticeably better than the LA-EA4r (which I also have). It still hunts, but is faster to focus overall.

2. For SSM lenses, it seems faster to focus and track than what I remember from my LA-EA3*.

3. It also seems to focus MUCH more reliably in low light than the LA-EA3*.

4. Focus accuracy seems very good/great. Lenses that typically required MFA on my A99ii needed no adjustment here, and were consistently sharper.

5. The Tamron 35/1.8 and 85/1.8 focus nearly as fast as any other SSM lens when attached. Again, this feels like a big improvement on the LA-EA3*.

6. Using the Minolta 500/8 Reflex, you will NOT have access to all of the focus points across the frame. It's limited to a cluster of them in the center.

7. The A99ii is faster to focus with every lens I tested -- sometimes much faster -- but the A7Riv/LA-EA5 combo is no slouch. I think it would be very usable for most situations I tend to shoot.


*NOTE: I'm comparing to the last time I used the LA-EA3 on the A7Riii, so the camera might be making a lot of the difference.


These are just my gut impressions, though, and subject to change. More testing to come this weekend.
 



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Originally posted by C_N_RED_AGAIN C_N_RED_AGAIN wrote:

Originally posted by Photosopher Photosopher wrote:

Sony didn't sell this LA-EA5 earlier because the E-Mount wasn't fully developed on the lens lineup at the time.

I would rebuy (or have kept) the 28/2, 24/2ZA, 35/2, 85/1.4, all the 2.8 G zooms... But unless I absolutely needed hard infinity focus stops, my replacement EMount versions of 28/2, 35/1.8, 24/1.4, 85/1.8 are surely better optical performers all around... aside from the 24mm perhaps. And the Tamron f2.8 zoom trio reminds me so much of my Maxxum 2.8 zoom trio that I have no need to revisit them... except perhaps for linear manual focus control.

I consider it a fact that selling this adapter earlier would have cut hard into the sales of the early E lenses, and given good reason for not considering the newer lenses. So I'll use this adapter to fill the gaps of what still can't be had with E... 200/2.8, 100/2...

Very suspicious this adapter now available after Monster... And most importantly, new Canon R system with adapters, which could easily tempt the A-Mount loyalists away... As it almost did me.


I agree with this. The 200 2.8 and maybe the 100 f2 are the only lenses Sony/tamron/sigma havenít released that would make this adapter viable to me. All the modern offering are far superior to their old Minolta counterparts. Maybe throw in the 600f4 as the cost of the Sony version is very prohibitive.
If you guys tried SSM and SAM lenses with the LA-EA3 you'll know that the on sensor AF system was not good enough with earlier cameras. With the latest cameras like the A7r4 it is good.

If you are talking about unique lenses:
500/8 - there is no size comparable lens available in E-mount
200/4 Macro - no long macro in E-mount
300/4 - no 300/4 in E-mount, zooms are bigger
85G LTD - best bokeh available

The 100/2 is a lens where there is a good alternative: 100/2.8 STF. A litter slower, but STF. If you want speed, you can choose the 135/1.8 or the 85/1.4. But then, I am not a fan of the 100/2 (as it is no 85mm )

Edit: I am wondering if the Sony 28/2 is better then the Minolta 28/2.
Also, I can understand people who prefer the Minolta 28-70G over any of the native E-mount lenses. Same with regard to the Sony/Minolta 35/1.4.

Edited by addy landzaat - 06 November 2020 at 19:51
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Originally posted by Red Fern Red Fern wrote:

Amazon surprised me with the LA-EA5 yesterday. There was no shipping notice or anything. The last I heard from them, they asked my approval for a shipping delay until December because the item was backordered.

Hooray for good surprises (and for being home so it didn't disappear from my porch)!

I'll have time this weekend to test it out thoroughly, weather permitting. But my gut impressions from just briefly trying out several lenses are as follows:


1. Hunting is noticeably better than the LA-EA4r (which I also have). It still hunts, but is faster to focus overall.

2. For SSM lenses, it seems faster to focus and track than what I remember from my LA-EA3*.

3. It also seems to focus MUCH more reliably in low light than the LA-EA3*.

4. Focus accuracy seems very good/great. Lenses that typically required MFA on my A99ii needed no adjustment here, and were consistently sharper.

5. The Tamron 35/1.8 and 85/1.8 focus nearly as fast as any other SSM lens when attached. Again, this feels like a big improvement on the LA-EA3*.

6. Using the Minolta 500/8 Reflex, you will NOT have access to all of the focus points across the frame. It's limited to a cluster of them in the center.

7. The A99ii is faster to focus with every lens I tested -- sometimes much faster -- but the A7Riv/LA-EA5 combo is no slouch. I think it would be very usable for most situations I tend to shoot.


*NOTE: I'm comparing to the last time I used the LA-EA3 on the A7Riii, so the camera might be making a lot of the difference.


These are just my gut impressions, though, and subject to change. More testing to come this weekend.
Thank you for your experiences. i find the SSM lenses on the A7r4 with the LA-EA3 much better then with the A7r2, with slight hunting.
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Exif check of the lens I have with LA-EA5.

There is nothing special to mention other than the following two points.
1) The parameters of the SIGMA 8mm / F4.0 Fysheye are recognized correctly.
2) For 3x-1x, the focal length and F value change depending on the magnification in 99II, but not in EA5.

I want you to see the table in monospaced font.

                            LensModel        FocalLength   MaxApertureValue
SIGMA 8mm F4 FISHEYE          16mm F2.8 Fisheye     8mm      F4.0
AF 24 / 2.8 New               24mm F2.8            24mm      F2.8
AF 28 / 2 New                 28mm F2              28mm      F2.0
35mm F1.4                     35mm F1.4 G          35mm      F1.4
AF 35 / 2 New                 35mm F2              35mm      F2.0
50mm F1.4                     50mm F1.4            50mm      F1.4
AF 50 / 1.7                   50mm F1.7            50mm      F1.7
AF 100 / 2                   100mm F2             100mm      F2.0
AF 135 / 2.8                 135mm F2.8           135mm      F2.8
AF MACRO 3X-1X F1.7-2.8      MACRO 3X-1X F1.7-2.8 50mm      F5.6
AF SOFT FOCUS 100mm F2.8     SOFTFOCUS 100mm F2.8 100mm      F2.8
AF APO TELE MACRO 200mm F4   MACRO 200mm F4       200mm      F4.0
500mm F8 Reflex              500mm F8 Reflex      500mm      F8.0

16-35mm F2.8 ZA SSM II       <-                 16-35mm      F2.8
50mm F1.4 ZA SSM             <-                    50mm      F1.4
70-300mm F4.5-5.6 G SSM II   <-               70-300mm      F4.5-5.6
DT 18-55mm F3.5-5.6 SAM      <-                 16-55mm      F3.5-5.6

Unsuported:
AF xi 35-200 F4.5-5.6 F--
1.4x Tele converter   F--

The test was done with ILCE-7RM4 v1.20.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote gigo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2020 at 00:55
Sony's compatibility table is not easy to list, so I reorganized it.
A machine translation of the Japanese description.

LA-EA5 with 7RIV.

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(1) "The lens correction function is not supported."

Lenses without the note (1) In other words, a lens with a lens correction function.

SAL100M28
SAL30M28
SAL50M28
SAL135F18Z
SAL20F28
SAL24F20Z
SAL28F28
SAL35F14G
SAL35F18
SAL50F14
SAL50F14Z
SAL50F18
SAL85F14Z
SAL85F28

SAL16105
SAL1635Z
SAL1635Z2
SAL1650
SAL1680Z
SAL18135
SAL18200
SAL18250
SAL1855
SAL18552
SAL2470Z
SAL2470Z2
SAL2875
SAL55200
SAL55200-2
SAL55300
SAL70200G
SAL70200G2
SAL70300G
SAL70300G2
SAL70400G
SAL70400G2

A SONY lens with a note (1).

SAL135F28
SAL16F28
SAL300F28G
SAL300F28G2
SAL500F40G
SAL500F80
SAL1118
SAL1870
SAL24105
SAL75300

There is a note (1) for all Minolta lenses.

---
(2) "The brightness of the screen may vary depending on the shooting conditions, so turn off the electronic front curtain shutter function."

Not all SONY lenses have this description.
All Minolta lenses have this description.

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(3) "Shutter speed and aperture cannot be set during movie shooting except in A (aperture priority) mode, S (shutter priority) mode, and M (manual) mode."

There is a note (3) for all lenses except the following two types, four lenses.

SAL135F28
STF135/2.8 [T4.5]
SAL500F80
AF REFLEX 500/8

Only lenses with an aperture ring or lenses with a fixed aperture.

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(4) The angle of view is cut out to APS-C size.
APS-C lens.

---
(5) When the "A mount lens" is attached using the mount adapter, the MF assist function does not start automatically even if the focus ring is turned. Assign the "Expand Focus" or "MF Assist" function to any key in "Custom Key Settings" and use it.
all. Even with a lens without a focus ring(3x-1x Macro).

---
(6) "3-axis camera shake correction (Pitch / Yaw / Roll) is performed by the camera shake correction function built into the body."
Maybe a 5-pin (non-D) lens.

AF 100/2
AF 100/2.8 SOFT
AF 135/2.8
AF 16/2.8 FISH-EYE
AF 20/2.8
AF 20/2.8 NEW
AF 24/2.8
AF 24/2.8 NEW
AF 28/2
AF 28/2 NEW
AF 28/2.8
AF 35/1.4 G
AF 35/1.4 G NEW
AF 35/2
AF 35/2 NEW
AF 50/1.4
AF 50/1.4 NEW
AF 50/1.7
AF 50/1.7 NEW
AF 85/1.4
AF 85/1.4 G
AF APO 200/2.8
AF APO 300/2.8
AF APO 300/4 G
AF APO 400/4.5 G
AF APO 600/4
AF REFLEX 500/8
High Speed AF APO 200/2.8 G
High Speed AF APO 300/2.8 G
High Speed AF APO 600/4 G
SAL16F28
SAL20F28
SAL28F28
SAL500F80
AF 100-200/4.5
AF 100-300/4.5-5.6
AF 17-35/3.5 G
AF 20-35/3.5-4.5
AF 24-50/4
AF 24-50/4 NEW
AF 24-85/3.5-4.5
AF 24-85/3.5-4.5 NEW
AF 28-105/3.5-4.5
AF 28-105/3.5-4.5 NEW
AF 28-70/2.8 G
AF 28-80/3.5-5.6
AF 28-80/3.5-5.6 II
AF 35-105/3.5-4.5 NEW
AF 35-70/3.5-4.5
AF 35-70/3.5-4.5 NEW
AF 35-80/4-5.6
AF 35-80/4-5.6 II
AF 70-210/3.5-4.5
AF 70-210/4
AF 70-210/4.5-5.6
AF 70-210/4.5-5.6 II
AF 75-300/4.5-5.6
AF 75-300/4.5-5.6 II
AF 75-300/4.5-5.6 NEW
AF 80-200/4.5-5.6
AF APO 100-300/4.5-5.6
AF APO 100-400/4.5-6.7
AF APO 80-200/2.8
High Speed AF APO 80-200/2.8 G


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(7) "To use autofocus, you need to update the camera software to Ver1.20 or later."
All screw drive lenses.

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(8) Autofocus works, but it may be difficult to focus with autofocus in dark scenes, around the screen, or when the subject is largely out of focus.

All lenses except the following have this note.
In other words, the following is a lens suitable for AF with LA-EA5 + 7 RIV.

SAL100M28
SAL30M28
SAL50M28
AF APO 300/2.8 G(D) SSM
STF135/2.8 [T4.5] (MF)
SAL135F18Z
SAL135F28 (MF)
SAL24F20Z
SAL300F28G
SAL300F28G2
SAL35F14G
SAL35F18
SAL500F40G
SAL50F14
SAL50F14Z
SAL50F18
SAL85F14Z
SAL85F28
AF APO 70-200/2.8 G (D) SSM
SAL1635Z
SAL1635Z2
SAL1650
SAL1680Z
SAL18135
SAL1855
SAL18552
SAL2470Z
SAL2470Z2
SAL2875
SAL55200-2
SAL55300
SAL70200G
SAL70200G2
SAL70300G
SAL70300G2
SAL70400G
SAL70400G2

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(9) "When continuous shooting Hi + / Hi / Mid and the focus mode is AF-C, the focus does not follow during continuous shooting. By updating the software of the camera body to Ver.1.20 or higher, continuous shooting Hi + / Hi / Mid AF tracking continuous shooting becomes possible."

All lenses except STF(MF).

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(10) "In continuous shooting Hi + / Hi / Mid, when the focus mode is AF-C, the frame speed may slow down."

All lenses except the following have this note.
These lenses do not have the limitation of (8). In other words, it seems to be the lens that can bring out the best AF performance.

STF135/2.8 [T4.5] (MF)
SAL135F28 (MF)
SAL300F28G2
SAL500F40G
SAL50F14Z
SAL1635Z2
SAL1650
SAL18135
SAL2470Z2
SAL55300
SAL70200G2
SAL70300G2
SAL70400G2

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I collect all the notes from Sony's Japanese site, disassemble them item by item, and check if the reconstructed sentences match the original notes.
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There is a note (1) for all Minolta lenses.

Which is not accurate, as 6 or 7 Minolta lenses share the same Lens ID as their Sony branded versions which are supported. Cameras treat the Minolta and Sony branded versions identically.

AF 20 F2.8 = RS = SAL20F28
AF 28 F2.8 = SAL28F28
AF 50 F2.8 D = SAL50M28
AF 100 F2.8 D = SAL100M28
AF 300 G = SAL300F28G
AF 70-200 G = SAL70200G

Sony has their Lens Compatibility site in English at Sony.com. I am not sure why you are using the Japanese version.


Edited by QuietOC - 11 November 2020 at 02:41
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Post Options Post Options   Quote rovhazman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 November 2020 at 04:33
Thank you giga for bringing this information! Great effort in compiling this information to be readable for us!

Can't wait for it to available here...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote gigo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 November 2020 at 07:05
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

There is a note (1) for all Minolta lenses.

Which is not accurate, as 6 or 7 Minolta lenses share the same Lens ID as their Sony branded versions which are supported. Cameras treat the Minolta and Sony branded versions identically.

AF 20 F2.8 = RS = SAL20F28
AF 28 F2.8 = SAL28F28
AF 50 F2.8 D = SAL50M28
AF 100 F2.8 D = SAL100M28
AF 300 G = SAL300F28G
AF 70-200 G = SAL70200G

Sony has their Lens Compatibility site in English at Sony.com. I am not sure why you are using the Japanese version.


It doesn't make sense to say that to me.
Isn't it better to tell SONY?
I don't do that though.

Having the same Lens ID does not mean that it is the same lens.
For example, even if it is made by the same SONY.
54 = Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T * 16-35mm F2.8 ZA SSM
54 = Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T * 16-35mm F2.8 ZA SSM II
There are clearly different lenses with the same ID.

Then, the camera properly identifies the two lenses that should have the same ID and writes different names (with and without II) in exif.
In other words, it is considered that there is an identifier different from the well-known LensID.
In fact, Sony compatibility tables may have different IDs.

There are also differences in assembly and inspection standards.
For ex. In SLT, it is not enough to squeeze (relatively leisurely) while flipping up the mirror.
If the camera moves the aperture at high speed, the aperture diameter will not stabilize immediately due to the reaction. If the time required for this stabilization is not short, uneven exposure will occur when using EFCS.
These limits are set to be stricter for Sony products with EFCS in SLT.

Why Japanese?
Other editions sometimes have strange translations or outdated content. Such claims are also scattered here.
Of course, it's also because it's my native language that I understand best.
I can read between lines in Japanese, but I often need the help of machine translation even if it is clearly written in other languages.

The Excel sheet itself is language independent. If you do your best to describe each language and cut and paste it from the SONY site, the rest will be processed automatically.
If you find a new interesting law, please let me know.
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Originally posted by rovhazman rovhazman wrote:

Thank you giga for bringing this information! Great effort in compiling this information to be readable for us!

Can't wait for it to available here...

Even in Japan, reservations before the release are out of stock.
Sony probably thought it would be okay because it took a relatively long period of three months to produce the required quantity.
Actually, it seems that there were many people who noticed it for the first time after it was released because they did not follow the camera information enthusiastically.

I hope you can get it soon.
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