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Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:

Originally posted by Stuart1701 Stuart1701 wrote:

Pathetic.

Only two cameras that support screw mount lenses ?
Woefully inadequate.

The rest could be done with firmware and the LA-EA3


One can imagine that Sony will try to deliver fw updates for the previous bodies.

The LAEA5 is compatible on those bodies the same way as an LAEA3 at the moment so there is no need for perfect redundancy here.


So why not include in the announcement something on the lines that that other cameras will be made compatable by future firmware updates?

Looking at the compatability lists shown by Brian Smith, it also looks like that it may not be compatable with any third party lenses and they may be disabled, I hope I am wrong as I cannot think of any technical reason why any A mount lens should not work with this adaptor, but I fear it may be the case.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote djfoxy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 19:09
Originally posted by Photosopher Photosopher wrote:

Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Maybe a prelude to the final abandonment of a-mount cameras, in order to prevent too much noise when it happens? Or is that too pessimistic?


Or a prelude to a99/77 mkIII cams without an SLT. Or is that too optimistic?


If LAEA5 is really delivered as a totally opened full A-mount lenses including legacy Minolta, and being able to shoot @11fps or 12fps with the newest E bodies, it would mean for me that

   LAEA5 + whatever new E-mount bodies = Latest A-mount Bodies

And in that sense I doubt that there would be an A99m3 btw that would be expected to be announced this year probably in october or novemebr and we are in sept...

I do the maths like that, that's just my very own opinion.

Finally the E-mount body used this way would just not be an hybrid cam body anymore because no AF in video...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote djfoxy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 19:12
Originally posted by Stuart1701 Stuart1701 wrote:

Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:

Originally posted by Stuart1701 Stuart1701 wrote:

Pathetic.

Only two cameras that support screw mount lenses ?
Woefully inadequate.

The rest could be done with firmware and the LA-EA3


One can imagine that Sony will try to deliver fw updates for the previous bodies.

The LAEA5 is compatible on those bodies the same way as an LAEA3 at the moment so there is no need for perfect redundancy here.


So why not include in the announcement something on the lines that that other cameras will be made compatable by future firmware updates?

Looking at the compatability lists shown by Brian Smith, it also looks like that it may not be compatable with any third party lenses and they may be disabled, I hope I am wrong as I cannot think of any technical reason why any A mount lens should not work with this adaptor, but I fear it may be the case.


I have read the very same compatibility hart, and I remember how Sony did cripple the use of lenses on A99 and A99m2 encoding the lenses ID in the firmware, I just hope they won't go this route.
But for the moment we realisitically don't know what sony will give. None of the reviews delivered include any Minolta lenses, only the sony SSM version...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Snegren Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 19:18
What does the compatibility really mean. The FETC1.4 is compatible with only FE 100-400 on paper but works just as well on FE 200-600. So wait and see.

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Originally posted by Snegren Snegren wrote:

What does the compatibility really mean. The FETC1.4 is compatible with only FE 100-400 on paper but works just as well on FE 200-600. So wait and see.
According to Sony.nl the 200-600G is compatible with the 1.4x TC with a caveat: "Beperkingen van de functies verschillen op basis van de behuizing."
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Photosopher Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 19:33
Originally posted by djfoxy djfoxy wrote:

LAEA5 + whatever new E-mount bodies = Latest A-mount Bodies


Sure. The only differences being the lack of top side LCD, fully articulating LCD, front side controls, twice the top side controls, full set of vertical grip controls to match the horizontal layout, lowered vertical grip for better elbow stabilization on chest and complete elimination of accidentally firing it from the horizontal grip, self locking battery doors, extreme weather sealing rubber gasket on vertical battery grip, strap lug on left side of vertical grip handy for no strapping by hand grip, genuine hinged doors for port covers, the ability to change control dials without raising hand on grip, EV comp that automatically resets to 0 and is equally useable with vertical grip, completely separate ports for remote, ac power, and usb connect (allowing all to be used simultaneously) and a battery system that shares the same charger with Sony big boy video cameras.

Other than that, yeah, pretty much the same.
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That said, I just pulled the trigger on a Max 100/2 and will be ordering the LA-EA5 as soon as it's available.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote minolta_mutley Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 19:46
I'll buy at least one LA-EA5 (and i'm considering 2 copy's for each of my Full Frame A7's) - this is the best news in years from Sony!

I'm gonna buy more old minolta glass - not less! Of course only the rare lenses...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 19:50
I think it's great this new adapter came out. Looking forward to Gary Friedman comparing it to the "monster adapter".

Since I'm not a complicated AF user (most of the time I'm on AF-S and just use the middle sensor, or don't need AF at all because I'm using a heritage MF lens I guess for the time being my LA-EA4 will do fine.

If this LA-EA5 works well with old Minolta lenses I might get one after a while, the two (small) advantages I see for my use are 1/2 stop light gain and a smaller (fully circular) form factor without the bulge that the LA-EA4 has underneath. For me not enough to immediately jump on it.

But for people who are frequently using all the AF bells and whistles that the new E-mount bodies have to offer I can see this is an extremely worthwhile development.
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I'm quite uninformed about E-mount, so a seemingly simple question: would this new LA-EA5 adapter allow all A-mount lenses to be used on the compatible E-mount bodies for full AF performance?
Would it work for 3rd party as well as Minolta legacy lenses?

I'm assuming the AF performance wouldn't still be quite as good as with native A-mount bodies such as A77ii or A99ii. Also it wouldn't be quite on par as with native E-mount lenses on E-mount bodies. That seems to be pretty much a given.

Apart from that, I'm assuming A-mount lenses will probably stage a modest recovery on prices.
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Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:


Since I'm not a complicated AF user (most of the time I'm on AF-S and just use the middle sensor, or don't need AF at all because I'm using a heritage MF lens I guess for the time being my LA-EA4 will do fine.

I used to work like that when I had a-mount cameras (a700, a900). Then came a9 with its AF magic. Now Iím permanently in AF-C mode except for flash photography and manual focus photography (I just purchased a manual lens today)
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I've been calling for this adapter for some time and am delighted, and more than a little surprised, that it has arrived. All I need now is the announcement of a mirrorless A99iii.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Dena Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 20:00
So I guess this makes going emount for full frame more appealing. Though I'll probably have to wait to see you all check out how it works.   

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Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 20:03
Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Originally posted by pegelli pegelli wrote:


Since I'm not a complicated AF user (most of the time I'm on AF-S and just use the middle sensor, or don't need AF at all because I'm using a heritage MF lens I guess for the time being my LA-EA4 will do fine.

I used to work like that when I had a-mount cameras (a700, a900). Then came a9 with its AF magic. Now Iím permanently in AF-C mode except for flash photography and manual focus photography (I just purchased a manual lens today)

Since my newest bodies are A7ii and A7Rii I don't have the luxury of the most advanced AF magic, so I really don't know what I am missing. Looking at some of Dopol's and others BIF shots I have an idea about how good it is but since my subjects are usually different (and much more "still") I don't feel the need to upgrade yet. Hence the LA-EA4 is still meeting my needs as well (again just using the center AF sensor in 95%+ of the cases).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cucoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 September 2020 at 20:07
This is surprising. I really hope they also fixed the strange laggy aperture behaviour of the LA-EA4. The shutter lag when the adapter stops down made me so mad, it made me sell my LA-EA4 (and, alas, most Minolta glass).
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