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Originally posted by FreeRadical09 FreeRadical09 wrote:

Lesson of the day: jerome uses us as guinea pigs whenever he's bored.


Isn't this what the Internet is about? It was entirely built by scientists...


(About the "photoclubalpha"... I didn't even know there was a such place.)
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Oddly enough, those scientists who built the Internet moved on to more interesting things...
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Originally posted by jerome jerome wrote:

Originally posted by FreeRadical09 FreeRadical09 wrote:

Lesson of the day: jerome uses us as guinea pigs whenever he's bored.


Isn't this what the Internet is about? It was entirely built by scientists...


(About the "photoclubalpha"... I didn't even know there was a such place.)

Al Gore is not a scientist, but he was the inspiration for a famous movie about a Harvard law jock.... just ask him, the OP seems to have something in common with AG
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Originally posted by lmorel lmorel wrote:

Originally posted by Harry John Harry John wrote:

...I'm amazed people take posts like this so seriously. As they say around the Net, those who know can't talk and those who talk don't know...


Well said, thank you!

I visit Dyxum every day - mostly with pleasure - but start to get so very tired of threads like this. I know, I don't have to read it so that's what I will do.

The thing that bothers me most is the tendency to an atmosphere where (almost) everybody seems to be so unhappy with the stuff they have. I would say: stop the whining, start making photo's and learn to get the most out of your gear. It's capable of much more than you'd expect.

Totally agree.We all need to do best with our cameras and lensses an stop this rumors obssesion.
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Originally posted by Sondermann Sondermann wrote:


I guess what really damages sales are Sony reps declaring that LV or video are entry level features, or releasing a bunch of warmed-up entry level left-overs without communicating the future of the enthusiast segment.


The bread and butter of the photo industry is the entry level, not the enthusiasts segment.
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Here is an interview with the the Marketing Manager for Digital Imaging (Europe). Interesting insight into a more relevant Roadmap for Sony.

Interview

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Originally posted by cjc181166 cjc181166 wrote:

Here is an interview with the the Marketing Manager for Digital Imaging (Europe). Interesting insight into a more relevant Roadmap for Sony.

Interview


It is clear that according to him the current implementation of live view and video will only benefit entry user. Those that only want the feature to be there and not so much concern of the quality of the video and live view expeerience.

From what he said Sony will include both in higher level dslr when they have the technology that they are satisfied with. Couldn't agree more with him. I am very interested in buying a5xx but I just got to see whether I can live with the compromised OVF. If Sony release a500 without live view then I would already pre-order it.

The only way I would buy live view dSLR is if I can live view from my PC monitor and control my camera from my PC (using wifi preferably). That would be great for my home studio.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Winedarksea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 September 2009 at 00:23
"A few weeks ago I was thinking that A7XX would be released during next spring in order to catch as many A700 user as possible with their new A850, before christmas and chineese new year.

Then they could do either "cheap" A7XX (~1300$)
- A700 body and OVF
- A900 AF system
- A550 sensor
- + a few gimmicks (for instance MF liveview...)
Or a 7D/D300s competitor:
- OVF 100%
- new AF system
- .....
but it will be more expensive and would come close to A850 price."

Maybe they make both of these cameras? one at ca $1350 and the other at $1750? I think that's the way to go for Sony.      

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Originally posted by pthomaslambert pthomaslambert wrote:

You want to see the road map then read this: http://tinyurl.com/nnh6zg


You don't ask a marketing person for the roadmap of a major corporation.
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Originally posted by maxfarphoto maxfarphoto wrote:

Originally posted by Sondermann Sondermann wrote:


I guess what really damages sales are Sony reps declaring that LV or video are entry level features, or releasing a bunch of warmed-up entry level left-overs without communicating the future of the enthusiast segment.


The bread and butter of the photo industry is the entry level, not the enthusiasts segment.
Don't forget it


Yes, and Sony currently has the largest, least competitive models in class with the A230/330/380.

Pentax offers smaller bodies with better viewfinders (K-2000/K-m) and ergonomics, Oly offers smaller bodies with more features (live view, flip/twist LCD), Nikon and Canon both offer better ergonomics, viewfinders and capabilities (LV, Video, High ISO performance).

Right now with Sony you're better off getting either the older 200/300/350 bodies as they lack the ergonomic problems of the newer bodies or moving up to the better specified A5x0 bodies which also have good ergonomics.

Sony needs to introduce competitive entry-level bodies. They've been damned near invisible for this generation of low-end stuff (like Pentax was last generation with the K200D)

Sony's also ignoring the fact that things like main sensor LV and HD Video are making a distinct impact on the high-profit semi-pro level. I guarantee the D700 update/upgrade will get Video, all the Nikon and Canon bodies above the base models have LV, as do all Oly's and Pentax's semi-pro K-7 has both LV and Video.

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Originally posted by mawz mawz wrote:

Right now with Sony you're better off getting either the older 200/300/350 bodies as they lack the ergonomic problems of the newer bodies or moving up to the better specified A5x0 bodies which also have good ergonomics.


In other words, enthusiasts should really be going for the A5xx series and leave the entry level models like the A3xx or A2xx to entry-level folks.


Sony needs to introduce competitive entry-level bodies. They've been damned near invisible for this generation of low-end stuff (like Pentax was last generation with the K200D)


Sony's entry level models *are* competitive and addresses the needs of the entry level buyers who absolutely don't want to deal with the "complications" of a high-end body, while being able to take advantage of the responsiveness of a dSLR.


Sony's also ignoring the fact that things like main sensor LV and HD Video are making a distinct impact on the high-profit semi-pro level. I guarantee the D700 update/upgrade will get Video, all the Nikon and Canon bodies above the base models have LV, as do all Oly's and Pentax's semi-pro K-7 has both LV and Video.


Agree. Sony is being bone-headed by continuing to be in denial about the fact that these features are actually useful. They have started bending a little by introducing main-sensor LV into the A5xx series (manual Focus only).....hopefully it will expand to the other models too and be retro-fitted via firmware upgrades into the prior models (assuming the required circuitry is already present in the body).
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As someone who enjoys wildlife photography and doesn't have the cash for a 500mm or 600mm prime lens, I REALLY hope Sony doesn't leave me off the road map and fail to release a high spec APS-C or similar cropped sensor.

Many will just say that you can crop in PP, but I have found you need to have the view finder image cropped enough to get accurate focusing and any type of MF is difficult as best without any kind of MF aid in the VF.

I am eagerly awaiting what Sony is going to introduce for my style of photography seeing as they have given the landscape, wedding and portrait shooters a nice list to choose from.
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