Sony's EVIL GUI revealed (a bit) in CP+

douglasf13 wrote:    Maybe we'll have the choice

A choice? Hello .. it is sony
Joke aside, i don't think Sony will try to attract "traditionalist" here. If they wanted to attract as many P&S users to use their low end DSLR cameras, EVIL ones will be made will go even further here.

And unlike DSLR cameras i believe this approach is the right one (not a personal preference but rather an effort to see it from marketing point of view)

springtide wrote: I assume the Sony EVIL cameras will have a new lens mount? But I guess there will be an adapter for A-Mount to allow mounting SAM/SSM/?HSM? lenses with AF and other A-Mount lenses MF? In a similar way what was done with the 4/3 -> m4/3 cameras, as the lenses are designed with a specific distance from lens to sensor. Is this what other people are expecting?

yes... count me too in that list.
besides SSM, how will it be with a normal A mount? like CZ1680? I love that range in a700. I dont care if look akward.

springtide wrote: But I guess there will be an adapter for A-Mount to allow mounting SAM/SSM/?HSM? lenses with AF and other A-Mount lenses MF? ... Is this what other people are expecting?

No!

Just as with the m43, only m43 lenses make sense. I see no point in using an 85mm f1.4 with the EVIL. I simply do not see the point nor the balance.

What I do see is the death of APS-C DSLRs. Just like the death of Four Thirds. Just as with Four Thirds, I do not expect old lenses to work on new mounts. Plenty of Four Third lenses do not work properly on the Panasonic m43 bodies.

I expect a kit zoom (28-80) a kit tele zoom (70-300), and a kit ultra zoom (28-200). Probably a pancake normal angle or a bit wider, the one shown as a mock-up. I expect this to drain recurses from APS-C development. Most users, by far, will be buying these new lenses on these new bodies, not DSLRs, in a few years.

The pancake is the lens the enthusiasts will want. The success of the mount is pretty much defined by that lens when it comes to enthusiasts: Just as the CZ 24-70 did for alpha.

There is a wild card in all this, and that is the new DSLR alpha bodies. They appear to focus during filming, and how this is done is the big unknown. Sony do not have to make any sort of bridge between the old DSLR and contrast detect, but if they do, it is a huge surprise. That is not Sony, nor Minolta like. (Minolta MF not working on AF, and Minolta AF not working on Vectis). What that would bring is so hard to predict.

Frode

Maybe this is interesting:

That photo rumours image looks like a fake to me.

NONE of the Sony material shows a hot-shoe, and the one in that image is photo-shopped on (its the wrong scale unless the body is wider than an SLR!)

Errrr we've seen this kind of silly specification list using this template many times.

More BS coming!

frodeni wrote: springtide wrote: But I guess there will be an adapter for A-Mount to allow mounting SAM/SSM/?HSM? lenses with AF and other A-Mount lenses MF? ... Is this what other people are expecting? No! Just as with the m43, only m43 lenses make sense. I see no point in using an 85mm f1.4 with the EVIL. I simply do not see the point nor the balance. Frode

I agree totally about standard A-Mount lenses not making sense, but I'm sure Sony will bring out an adapter - to allow it (in the same way as M43)

When I owned an E-P1 I looked into the lens adapters, but even the M43s 14-42 kit lens looked too big for the body. I decided it wasn't worth bothering with other lenses. The Lecia lenses look lovely on the E-P1, but totally impractical without a viewfinder.
On the E-P1, the 43s adapter was L150 - which is probably half the price of a new lens.

I think it would be comical seeing the Sony EVIL with the CZ2470 :-)