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Originally posted by frodeni frodeni wrote:

Originally posted by Mud.Starrr Mud.Starrr wrote:

Maybe this is interesting:
Not really. There is no quality rumor source for Sony. The best you get is this very forum, and we are about the last ones to know anything. Most of the credible "rumors" on rumor websites are quoted from here or dpr forums.

Please do not cram this thread with pointless and fake rumor site quotes.

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Just thought it might interest you guys (I am not really interested in this kind of cam anyway).
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Originally posted by Mud.Starrr Mud.Starrr wrote:

Originally posted by frodeni frodeni wrote:

Originally posted by Mud.Starrr Mud.Starrr wrote:

Maybe this is interesting:
Not really. There is no quality rumor source for Sony. The best you get is this very forum, and we are about the last ones to know anything. Most of the credible "rumors" on rumor websites are quoted from here or dpr forums.

Please do not cram this thread with pointless and fake rumor site quotes.

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Sorry.
I have to say I didn't look much into it.
Just thought it might interest you guys (I am not really interested in this kind of cam anyway).


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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

The first thing i noticed with this rumor image is that the camera is supposed to record both craw and raw. That is IMHO so non-sony for this type of camera IMHO so i'm quite skeptical about it.


Kiklop, but as per my post above before the rumour site got mentioned, the screenshots on the Sony site clearly show Raw+J in the review screen, look at the top of the screenshot bottom right:


Its easier to see in the video on the first link in the OP, but you can just make it out here.

Unless you meant the camera actually supporting RAW not just cRAW?
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

The first thing i noticed with this rumor image is that the camera is supposed to record both craw and raw. That is IMHO so non-sony for this type of camera IMHO so i'm quite skeptical about it.

That sheet is fake for sure: this camera will belong to the Alpha family, not to the Cybershot family. But, after the screen shots they start showing yesterday, the Slimline will support RAW and the GUI will be closer to the Cybershot than to the A700/A900/A850.
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Originally posted by TallPaul TallPaul wrote:


Unless you meant the camera actually supporting RAW not just cRAW?


I would be surprised if it has cRAW support, and not just a single RAW option. (Or RAW +J which it looks like it does.)
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Originally posted by TallPaul TallPaul wrote:

Unless you meant the camera actually supporting RAW not just cRAW?

Yes, that's what i referred to. AFAIK, even recent alpha DSLR cameras do not support both but rather just the compressed version so i don't believe Sony will change this with EVIL cameras (i could be wrong of course)
So, i have no doubt that about craw file format or craw+jpg mode but just about uncompressed RAW.

Edited by Kiklop - 11 March 2010 at 18:42
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Originally posted by groovyone groovyone wrote:


I would be surprised if it has cRAW support

My bet is different*; i believe they will provide craw only (of course, because of inconsistency in their terminology it will be called raw)

*i don't have recent amount cameras but i'm told a550 for example does craw only (named as raw).
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:


*i don't have recent amount cameras but i'm told a550 for example does craw only (named as raw).


you are right there and therefore I also guess it's cRaw as in the A450/500/550 which is also called only Raw
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Originally posted by Kiklop Kiklop wrote:

Originally posted by groovyone groovyone wrote:


I would be surprised if it has cRAW support

My bet is different*; i believe they will provide craw only (of course, because of inconsistency in their terminology it will be called raw)

*i don't have recent amount cameras but i'm told a550 for example does craw only (named as raw).


I agree.
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Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

If aperture is nothing but a slider, will with be driven nuts trying to get it where we want. Hopefully there will be up/down buttons at the ends of the slider.

There is a very real chance they go too flashy/iPhone ish on the interface.


I don't think the 'slider' is a control at all, just a visual indicator of what changing the aperture will do. There is no thumb moving it on the video and you actually hear an electronic clicking sound suggesting that a dial is being turned.
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Originally posted by RubberDials RubberDials wrote:

Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

If aperture is nothing but a slider, will with be driven nuts trying to get it where we want. Hopefully there will be up/down buttons at the ends of the slider.

There is a very real chance they go too flashy/iPhone ish on the interface.


I don't think the 'slider' is a control at all, just a visual indicator of what changing the aperture will do. There is no thumb moving it on the video and you actually hear an electronic clicking sound suggesting that a dial is being turned.

I agree it's an indicator. Also, isn't it indicating focus point distance rather than aperture? The value on the LCD remains at F2.8 while the indicator is moving and the focus point of the image in the LCD is clearly changing.

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Originally posted by sdm9465 sdm9465 wrote:

Originally posted by RubberDials RubberDials wrote:

Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

If aperture is nothing but a slider, will with be driven nuts trying to get it where we want. Hopefully there will be up/down buttons at the ends of the slider.

There is a very real chance they go too flashy/iPhone ish on the interface.


I don't think the 'slider' is a control at all, just a visual indicator of what changing the aperture will do. There is no thumb moving it on the video and you actually hear an electronic clicking sound suggesting that a dial is being turned.

I agree it's an indicator. Also, isn't it indicating focus point distance rather than aperture? The value on the LCD remains at F2.8 while the indicator is moving and the focus point of the image in the LCD is clearly changing.


It's the aperture control, because it uses their common icon for "narrow" and "wide" apertures, if you've seen the a550 GUI. Focus is controlled on the lens.
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I think it's a zoom indicator.
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