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    Posted: 24 July 2019 at 21:43
Good evening everyone.

I'm still in a quandary over this and was hoping for a little advice if not an outright nudge in the right direction. I am considering investing in an aps-c e-mount body in the fairly near future and the a6400 and a6500 have certainly caught my attention.

I'll be using whichever e-mount body with my existing a-mount lenses via the LAEA-4 adapter as I have some glass which is of the "screw drive" type, relying on the camera's own motor to drive it. That should enable me to use AF on all but my Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 LD IF Macro which apparently is one of a very few which just doesn't AF with the -4 adapter.

Anyway; the way I see it is as follows.

a6400
For:
*Price: My local London Camera Exchange has this in stock for £929 which is a drop of £20 from the previous price listing.
*Somewhat longer battery life, 360 via EVF & 410 via rear LCD - ideally anyway.
*Superior AF design/tracking (when using native lenses).
*Some reviews suggest more saturated colours even without PP?

Against:
*Lack of IBIS which may be an issue with using a-mount lenses via LAEA-4.
*Rear LCD flip design does not cater for overhead shots.
*Smaller buffer.
*Advanced AF system may be of little benefit when using a-mount lenses via an adapter.

a6500
For:
*IBIS which should also work with a-mount lenses via the adapter.
*Tilt rear LCD screen allows overhead shots which since I'm not exactly tall is quite a useful feature to have!
*Larger buffer compared to the a6400.
*Somewhat larger recessed grip.
**Possible price reduction when/if this a6700/a7000 arrives.

Against:
*Expensive and somewhat over my £1000 budget which, if its to be believed, is surprising considering Sony is supposedlyintroducing a replacement soon.


This may seem like I'm going overboard mulling this over however its a fair amount of money to be spending and its also the first e-mount body I've ever purchased which makes me a bit more cautious. Certainly both of them appear to have advantages and I've seen example pictures from both and they are not lacking in the image quality capability either (depending on the person behind the camera of course). I'm quite happy to invest in an aps-c body rather than a full frame unit as I have many lenses which are dedicated cropped sensor designs and I don't want to part with them.

So....any advice on anyone who has already been through this is certainly appreciated. I'm still saving up for the camera and LAEA-4 adapter at the moment (I never buy anything on credit if it can be helped) but making the choice between the two of them isn't an easy one.

Thanks.



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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2019 at 22:24
Both will have worse AF with A-mount lenses than any SLT. The grip and handling is worse than any SLT. You still lose 1/3 of the light with the LA-EA4.

I highly recommend using E-mount lenses only with the E-mount APS-C bodies.


Edited by QuietOC - 24 July 2019 at 22:49
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Coast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2019 at 23:01
as an owner of an a6000 and a6500

I try to keep things simple
If your a night shooter like me the steady shot a6500 is your camera

if you are a video guy the a6400 is your camera

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Post Options Post Options   Quote C_N_RED_AGAIN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2019 at 23:28
Iíve previously owned an a6500 and own an a 6400 now. The A6400 is a way better camera. The af system is outstanding the video capabilities are superior and it has my menu were you can tweak the menu system.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote momech Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 July 2019 at 23:35
I've been watching the same thing, and am trying to be patient until we see what else Sony releases this year. SAR has been remarkably accurate lately and they're saying 2 more cameras by September. I'm guessing one will replace the A6500 - hopefully with the new AF system. Probably be more expensive, but may also cause drop in A6400/6500 price.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote coyote1086 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 00:55
I would think the A6400 LCD screen can be used in overhead shots. It seems you can pull the screen out, then you can either flip up or down.

I recently bought an A6500 in Hong Kong. The price difference between the A6500 and A6400 were very small , so I opt for the A6500 with IBIS as I do not usually shoot something that is very fast, so fast AF is not a priority.

If you have no plan on going full frame E mount, you can simply get the LAEA2 which is much cheaper. With my experience, my LAEA2 on E mount seems more accurate than the LAEA4 on FE mount.

If you are using all A mount lens, then you won't get benefit from both their fast AF, eye AF. You should migrate to some native E mount lenses in the future.
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote LAbernethy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 02:22
Originally posted by momech momech wrote:

I've been watching the same thing, and am trying to be patient until we see what else Sony releases this year. SAR has been remarkably accurate lately and they're saying 2 more cameras by September.


Please, let it be the A77III. Please, let it be the A77III!! Please, let it be the A77III!!!!!!!!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 02:38
It sounds like there's going to be a RX100VI and RX10V instead.

I tried my A6000 at my last event with the 55-210. The new firmware didn't improve the AF as far as I could tell. The A68 is much better. I wasn't too annoyed with the handling. If the A6400 could manage 8 FPS or so with the 55-300...

One thing that isn't mentioned is that the only current E-mount APS-C lenses are the 18-135 and 18-110G. Those are the only ones rated for 20 FPS on the A9. The former does sound nice for the A6x00 bodies, but it is pricer than I want to spend right now.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote stiuskr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 02:44
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Post Options Post Options   Quote balacau Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 06:23
Thank you all for your replies.

I forgot to mention that I'll be using the new body for still images. Video isn't really my thing.

I do understand that with the a6400 for overhead shots, you can tilt the screen, hold the camera upside down and the LCD will reorientate the image so I guess this would work, albeit in a roundabout way and with a bit less comfort maybe? 🤔

As prices stand for the moment, there's a £300 price difference locally between the two cameras (body only).

I do have my eye on the 90mm Sony macro lens but that's all so far. I guess I'll have to find out for myself just how good or bad the AF is when using the adapter.

Thanks again.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 07:36
If you feel IBIS is needed, then take a6500 or wait for replacement model to compare, probably coming soon.

a6500 and a6400 are not comparable, and this because I see your only "against" is higher price.    
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ABDurbs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 07:58
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

Both will have worse AF with A-mount lenses than any SLT. The grip and handling is worse than any SLT. You still lose 1/3 of the light with the LA-EA4.

I highly recommend using E-mount lenses only with the E-mount APS-C bodies.

+1
If however I was in your shoes, I would go A6500 if fast focus is not an issue. IBIS would be top of my list between the 2.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ABDurbs Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 July 2019 at 08:00
Originally posted by Aavo Aavo wrote:

If you feel IBIS is needed, then take a6500 or wait for replacement model to compare, probably coming soon.

a6500 and a6400 are not comparable, and this because I see your only "against" is higher price.    

Agree.

Off topic. My wife recently visited your city whilst on a cruise Aavo. She loved it says it is a beautiful city.
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If you are planning on using either with A-mount lenses on an LA-EA4 then you can forget factoring in their built in AF systems, it's all going to come down to the A55 era SLT system built into the adapter.
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