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    Posted: 30 March 2021 at 09:27
Hello everybody.

I'm in E-Mount since 2017 when I bought an A6000. It's being 2 years I'm settled down with a lineup I really like, conisting in the Zony 24/1.8 (main lens) and a short telephoto lens for headshots (Samyang 75/1.8).
Last year I started practicing landscape and I miss a telephoto (>135mm) lens. At first I thought to use a MF lens as it would have been just for landscape. Anyway I got disappointed by the results I obtained with various lenses.

So I'm starting thinking to use a more modern lens, with AF possibly. I almost never shoot with a telephoto lens in the past, so it can be that a nice lens addition could open new things in my shooting style.
I'm in the loop with the following options, any advice is welcome

1)Try another 55-210 OSS. The one I tried 2 years ago did not satisfy my in terms of contrast and color rendition (washed out). It can be easily sample variation as it is a kit lens after all.

2) Save for a 70-350 OSS, that is currently around 600 used.

3) Adapt a 55-300 to my a6000
4) Adapt a Minolta 135/2.8 to my a6000.
5) Acquire a zoom like 18-135 OSS

I'd like options 3-4 as they are really cheaper (and maybe lighter too!) than option 2, even if I would lack OSS unless I upgrade to body to an A6500 (another option for the future).
I loved Minolta glass in my a58 but the render on my a6000 did not satify me (M35-70/4 and M100-200/4.5), so this puzzles me regarding the 135/2.8
Thanks to all who will answer me

Edited by Barrin - 30 March 2021 at 11:08
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2021 at 13:34
I recommend trying another 55-210 OSS.

The 18-135 OSS sounds like a useful lens.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 March 2021 at 18:25
The best option is the 70-350G but you'll pay for it.

Lenses like the 55-210 OSS are build to a price, they are optically sound but they tend to show sample variations. Another copy might be noticeably better then the one you tried, but it could also be worse.

On the A6000 you'll need the LA-EA4 for AF with the 55-300. With the adapter it won't be lighter.

The 18-135 is a nice option if 135mm is long enough.
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I'd recommend the 85mm f2.8 SAM Sony which is a very nice lens and still pretty compact on the LA-EA3. I don't know if the A6000 will AF properly on the LA-EA3 (my Nex-6 doesn't) but if not, MF is easy to use with focus peaking.

If you want to do macro then any of the A-mount macro lenses are good, including the Tamron 90mm f2.8. If you're happy with MF and don't mind a bigger lens, the original Samyang 85mm MF E-mount is now quite cheap.

The main question you have to ask yourself is whether you want the ability to isolate your subject from the background. Even if you only ever take distant shots, you will find that with a 135mm f2.8 tele (or 85mm on APS-C) the ability to do that makes it something you will want to use a lot.

Most of the cheap and easily available zooms are too slow around 80-100mm to do that, though there are a few A-mount ones which come close. For example,
Sony 55-200mm SAM, which is f4 all way to 100mm
Minolta 70-210mm f4 or the later f3.5-4.5 (shorter and lighter)

Edited by Miranda F - 31 March 2021 at 12:49
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 March 2021 at 13:32
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I'd recommend the 85mm f2.8 SAM Sony which is a very nice lens and still pretty compact on the LA-EA3. I don't know if the A6000 will AF properly on the LA-EA3 (my Nex-6 doesn't) but if not, MF is easy to use with focus peaking.
It won't AF properly. Would not bother with A-mount.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Miranda F Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 April 2021 at 09:11
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I'd recommend the 85mm f2.8 SAM Sony which is a very nice lens and still pretty compact on the LA-EA3. I don't know if the A6000 will AF properly on the LA-EA3 (my Nex-6 doesn't) but if not, MF is easy to use with focus peaking.
It won't AF properly. Would not bother with A-mount.

Fair enough - I wasn't sure. But the OP did list three A-mount lenses as options.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Coast Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2021 at 08:45
Hi
I have an all apsc system and only crop system:
2 cameras, a6000 and a6500
I'm a travel and landscape photographer, predominantly and early on I made a decision that size and weight mattered and that I should keep it simple and travel light

I have finally gotten the only 3 lens I need.
It has taken a while. I believe it was in 2014 on Black Friday I bought the Sony a6000 bundle for $750 which included the 16-50 kit lens the 55-210 zoom and a Sony carry bag
The 16-50 turned out to be a great little lens, you couldn't ask for more; AF, power zoom, anti shake and compact and light weight as a pancake lens. I love how sharp it is, has excellent colors. The only drawback for me is it can't carry a lens hood. Thus shooting towards the sun I get some pretty heavy glare. But probably one of the Best bang for your buck lens out there.

The 55-210 I will say only one thing: Its Garbage!
Sony should be ashamed to have their name on it, at least my copy

The a6000 is is a dynamic, lite weight easy to handle gem, 24 mp, sophisticated for being early in the a6xxx series I still use it all the time


My 1st of the 3 lenses is the Rokinon 12mm f.2 Ultra Wide. Super sharp, has its own unique characteristics, use It all the time. You can almost crop it to infinity

the 2nd is my Zeiss 16-70 zoom which I got so I could be thought of being taken somewhat seriously.
No, but it is an excellent lens and can carry a lens hood. Fits the mid range of photography. Use it all the time

The 3rd. The boat that just recently came in, the 70-350 APS-C zoom. Love this lens, amazing photos you can take w it. I am now complete (at least in my mind) my completely apsc system. I love the images I get w it. A little heavy but not like the full frame E mounts, its actually portable. And I will not use adapters. Having a bigger, heavier Full Frame lens on an adapter, to my mind negates the whole reason I use aps-c

Oh, and I got the a6500 primarily because its sturdier and has in body stabilization, where as I do a lot of night photography

So there it is, my 2 cents
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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 April 2021 at 14:12
Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I'd recommend the 85mm f2.8 SAM Sony which is a very nice lens and still pretty compact on the LA-EA3. I don't know if the A6000 will AF properly on the LA-EA3 (my Nex-6 doesn't) but if not, MF is easy to use with focus peaking.
It won't AF properly. Would not bother with A-mount.

Fair enough - I wasn't sure. But the OP did list three A-mount lenses as options.
Yeah, you're right. On the A6100 or A6300, A-mount is a decent option, but on the A6000 it is not and I was thinking out loud.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote overeema Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 April 2021 at 12:54
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I'd recommend the 85mm f2.8 SAM Sony which is a very nice lens and still pretty compact on the LA-EA3. I don't know if the A6000 will AF properly on the LA-EA3 (my Nex-6 doesn't) but if not, MF is easy to use with focus peaking.
It won't AF properly. Would not bother with A-mount.

Fair enough - I wasn't sure. But the OP did list three A-mount lenses as options.
Yeah, you're right. On the A6100 or A6300, A-mount is a decent option, but on the A6000 it is not and I was thinking out loud.

I more or less agree, except that the 70-350 is still on my wish list.
And I am considering to replace my 16-50 kitlens with the Tamron 2.8/17-70.
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It is annoying that even the A6600 which support 11 FPS AF-C bursts with A-mount lenses doesn't support A-mount Lens Compensation.

I am still impressed by the image quality of the DT 55-300 SAM, but the Tamron 70-300 RXD does focus much better.
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