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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 01:08
Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

Film had very low ISOs, options. This is important if you want to take longer photos.   


More about finer grain than exposure time from my experience with Kodachrome 25 and Panatomic X 32.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 01:16
Understandable.   That would lead more into a resolution discussion I think.

One of the things I wish camera makers would do is implement a menu option for reprocity failure. Possibly done by PWM'ing the sensor with time. People can select a log curve and the camera then turns the sensor on and off slower and slower with time, which could possibly have a benefit in power consumption and sensor temps, which could then reduce long exposure noise issues.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 01:53
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:


- and no compatiblity with the Minolta/Sony flash system.

Different evolutionary paths. The NEX may inherit the earth, but it hasn't happened yet. Again, fodder for some other thread.


Oh dear we're off topic.

The E mount video camera Sony produces has a standard Mino/Sony flash shoe. There is likely to be more blurring/blending of the two systems not less.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 03:10
Originally posted by Pete Ganzel Pete Ganzel wrote:

The E mount video camera Sony produces has a standard Mino/Sony flash shoe. There is likely to be more blurring/blending of the two systems not less.

Well, that's a comfort. Hey, maybe the SLTs will eventually grow NEX-like flash connectors on top for the HVL-F7S and F20S.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 03:17
They might,   my gut feel is that shoe you see on the low end NEX bodies may just be used for them. Flash is basically an included accessory for those models. 7 series and up NEX bodies get iISO flash.

The low end SLTs still have a view finder right in that spot, which makes getting to the circuit bored to do the edge connector difficult, and those bodies all ready have lots of top side area to just maintain the pop up flash.

The shoe on the NEX bodies is more of a function of major cost reduction and there being little room for anything else. A pop up flash would be very hard to fit in those bodies, and sony has left themselves a good place for a pop in EVF.

Only way I see that shoe showing up in SLTs is if Sony makes an SLT with no EVF, then I'd say it would be very likely to see that shoe. But I don't see why Sony would bother with an "A22", at that point just buy a NEX.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 03:23
Originally posted by sybersitizen sybersitizen wrote:

Originally posted by Pete Ganzel Pete Ganzel wrote:

The E mount video camera Sony produces has a standard Mino/Sony flash shoe. There is likely to be more blurring/blending of the two systems not less.

Well, that's a comfort. Hey, maybe the SLTs will eventually grow NEX-like flash connectors on top for the HVL-F7S and F20S.


It just might, as it is a multi purpose data connector that also provides power.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 04:09
wow, i can't believe the hype around the A77. I might just pick one up as well....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 06:35
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

Originally posted by jvsanchez jvsanchez wrote:

a little off topic, but that unmarked lens looks to me suspiciously like a 24-120 f/4 i'd honestly rather have that than a CZ 16-50.

Didn't realise that it was something new. Size wise I would think it could be a 24-105/4 - however that would kill off the 28-75/2.8 as a budget option. I don't know about the size of the Nikon 24-120, however the Canon 24-105/4L is bigger. But Minolta lenses used to be smaller then Canon's and this lens seems slightly bigger then the 24-105/3.5-4.5. It looks different then the 16-105 to me. So, is this the legendary much rumored 24-105/4G?


it might not be anything new. could be the 16-105 but it seems a little more sculpted, where the 16-105's pretty blocky and sharp edged. It reminds me of the Sony 24-105/3.5-4.5. of course, it could be nothing and i could just be hoping and dreaming. But honestly a 24-105(120)/4 is exactly the lens i want.

Back on topic now. sorry for the diversion
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 06:39
Staying on topic is far to constraining for the A77 thread.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 10:12
About lower ISOs, this is simply impossible for an electronic imaging device. The base sensitivity is fixed in the silicon, and the only thing you can do to get lower ISOs is to overexpose, then attenuate the signal, severely limiting DR. It would simply be no good. If you want to force long exposures on a digital camera, use ND filters. Period.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 10:19
people should really stop whining about the EVF until actually looking through one (one with an OLED screen that is), or just move on to other brands already.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 11:24
Originally posted by trainerKEN trainerKEN wrote:

people should really stop whining about the EVF until actually looking through one (one with an OLED screen that is), or just move on to other brands already.   
You're the only one on this continued A77 thread that is whining about the EVF...

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Anyway, a more constructive response:
Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

It's good to here they both have GPS, if Sony blew that one after the success of the A55, that would have been dumbfounding. In interviews reps had said GPS will come on the higher end models in the future, so it's good to see it stays.

I've no need for GPS, so I would like to see a (cheaper) version without the GPS... What about an A75 without GPS?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 11:57
I doubt that the extra cost of providing GPS is actually that huge, and the facility can always be switched off and not used of course.

I'd rather it be properly integrated in the camera than made available as an (expensive) optional extra.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 June 2011 at 11:58
A GPS receiver and antenna is not likely to cost more than $10 nowadays, so making it optional would probably make both resulting models more expensive.
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