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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 02:27
Or a hand-strap.

(someone keep this going!)
 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 02:34
Or a v-grip...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 02:48
Originally posted by Dave_Anderson Dave_Anderson wrote:

Or a v-grip...

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If you use a grip, you'll need a monopod or tripod to hold it anyway (... he says, alluding to the sheer enormity of the grip)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 03:59
Originally posted by sdm9465 sdm9465 wrote:

Oops, wrong thread.
Not at all, Steve. They are known as "stabilizers" here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 05:58
Originally posted by Falcon75 Falcon75 wrote:

It's a huge fake... just copy the image and zoom a bit on your pc...

You'll the noise around the letters and symbols area in rectangular shape... more visible on the grip...

the dial button is also "curved"...



It's a fake!


Yes, because someone would go to all the trouble of making a photorealistic fake image, only to let a curved dial give it away
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 06:21
Originally posted by flashgumby flashgumby wrote:

Originally posted by Dave_Anderson Dave_Anderson wrote:

Or a v-grip...

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If you use a grip, you'll need a monopod or tripod to hold it anyway (... he says, alluding to the sheer enormity of the grip)



Actually, I tend to think of grip/tripod as mutually exclusive, except with the collared lenses. I do have a dovetail that lives on the grip for use in a pinch, but I generally only replace the L-plate with the grip when I think I'll be shooting almost exclusively hand-held.

I wish camera makers would just have the cajones to make bottom and side Arca dovetails integral with the frame (and of course leave a 1/4-20 hole in the bottom for people who like to do it the hard way). It would add quite a bit to the rigidity of the camera/head interface. Then of course there would be the folks who would look at the extra 5g of weight on the spec sheet and go on about the weight or the fact that the dovetail type chosen wasn't Brand X.

Er... back on topic... I don't think there is a good way to detect if the camera is on a tripod except with some enhancement to the existing SSS system, and I bet if it were ever implemented we would still find ourselves wanting to override it occasionally.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 07:19
Originally posted by vbpholaw vbpholaw wrote:

Assuming the photos are real or anything close to an accurate representation of the new camera, I'm a bit surprised that only a couple of people have picked up on the "problem" that Sony is apparently moving more key functions to menu items from dedicated buttons or switches. There is no metering mode selection switch, or SS switch, which would both now appear to be menu items (bad in both cases).


I am probably one of the few who absolutely loves the idea of SSS going into menu. It irritated me to no end when I used memory setting to do product shots and now you HAVE to remember to switch off the SSS instead of automatically reading from the settings, hopefully now it will be a part of memory settings. That is the biggest problem with hard switches. I would have liked to keep it for metering, but SSS belongs in the menu IMO, where it can be properly automated.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 08:10
Originally posted by Serdar A Serdar A wrote:

That's not going to work with a black rapid.


or L-plate, or v-grip, or hand-strap


I can't remember who it was that suggested it, but none of these would be an issue if you disable the SSS when using either a cable/remote release or when using the timer.

That would seem to me to work nicely and would cover my tripod use - and if you're happy to use a tripod and click manually, then you're probably also happy to use a tripod with the SSS still enabled
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 08:17
Originally posted by Miwok Miwok wrote:

Maybe, there will be a system that turns the SSS off automatically when the camera is on a tripod.


Off course, the idea was with the possibility to change the option in the menu. I'm pretty sure than this will be be really cool for the 99 % of people who don't use rapid strap, l-plate ect...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 08:20
Originally posted by raebeizof raebeizof wrote:

Looks fake to me.

This is not a fake, this is how it will look like.
It's 100% confirmed :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 08:23
Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:


I can't remember who it was that suggested it, but none of these would be an issue if you disable the SSS when using either a cable/remote release or when using the timer.


That would be awesome, easy, and work.


Therefore, it will never happen.   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 08:34
Maybe it's hard to do, or they want to cater for users who may leave the CR attached. I'd rather see the horrible fragile CR port redesigned and placed in a better spot, a bottom corner say.

I am always turning SSS on/off, but the sliding switch is too easy to inadvertently shift with so many frequently accessed controls around it. How about a top LCD option, like WB,EC and ISO...that way it is easy to get to without suffering Nikon syndrome, but not problematic.

I'd never use the vert grip, but nice to see a 'system' approach. I hope it resembles the A700 in all dimensions and weight.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 12:48
Another way to disable SSS would be to tie it into the grip sensor.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 July 2011 at 12:56
Originally posted by stiuskr stiuskr wrote:

Another way to disable SSS would be to tie it into the grip sensor.


We don't get grip sensors in the EU - something to do with the zinc...

Disabling with the cable release or on delay sounds good to me, although I would guess that maybe the systems have got sophisticated enough to delect when they are not moving at all and shut down avoiding the feedback loop...
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