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Originally posted by Serdar A Serdar A wrote:

I am certain most of us did what we could financially aside from getting on an airplane and helping the relief effort personally (and there is at least one member who even did that). But at some point, you have to move on...That is life.


"Moving on" to........

Sorry, Serdar - I know it's twisting words..... but I've been dying to use your emoticon, and this was just too good an opportunity to pass up.

Three new emoticons down, and five to go.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 09:25
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Yes, I did expect it to compete with the 7D and be in the $1200 to $1300 range given the rumored 25MP sensor and metal body. Performance wise the Sony a580 competes with the D7000 and the 60D, not in build quality but certainly in IQ and superior live view system.

2 years ago I was told that the A700 replacement wasn't going to be pitched as a direct 7D competitor.
Of course there is nothing that says that Sony can't add in another (pro) model above the A700 replacement when they feel ready.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 09:41
Originally posted by Heidfirst Heidfirst wrote:

Originally posted by dca1213 dca1213 wrote:



Yes, I did expect it to compete with the 7D and be in the $1200 to $1300 range given the rumored 25MP sensor and metal body. Performance wise the Sony a580 competes with the D7000 and the 60D, not in build quality but certainly in IQ and superior live view system.

2 years ago I was told that the A700 replacement wasn't going to be pitched as a direct 7D competitor.
Of course there is nothing that says that Sony can't add in another (pro) model above the A700 replacement when they feel ready.


I don't see price being the telling factor in terms of which cameras it will compete against, particularly as Sony have stated that without the complex mirror mechanism their costs are reduced considerably.

Of course, w'll have to wait and see, but surely having similar build quality (weather sealed?), higher spec AND lower cost just makes it more competitive, not less?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 14:27
Originally posted by cata352004 cata352004 wrote:

Originally posted by jcbenten jcbenten wrote:

Sony is thinking of their customers. Sony's customers are the SLT and NEX users and not Pro-sumer users.
sony wrong! HUGE!!I have two friends who gave up sony for that.passed both the nikon.If Sony does not change their policy will lose fans !
Any market share reports you can find speak a different word.
NEX and SLT are the first time Sony actually grabbed a mentionable market share in Japan.
And thy sell great around the world.

Outside from Europe no Sony DSLR could ever come close to the market share of it's Canon, Nikon counterparts.
Even the A560/A580 don't show big results on most markets.

You can argue that Pentax also keeps making an enthusiast camera for that like no market exists (even Olympus does).
That's not how Sony runs it's business.
They rather gamble place a innovative new product than trying to gain market in percentages over decades.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 15:03
So it seems like the a77 won't have 24p.
Really Sony?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 16:47
Originally posted by cata352004 cata352004 wrote:

sony wrong! HUGE!!I have two friends who gave up sony for that.passed both the nikon.If Sony does not change their policy will lose fans !


I think you are missing the point that seems to be coming almost unavoidable now...

If you want a traditional base of cameras (Optical Viewfinder with "some" video capabilities and the classic SLR type interface) then go with CaNikon.

If you are open with to the majority of your (new) body choices being SLT with a couple (or possibly none) available as OVF then stay with Sony.

There is little (Nothing??) to indicate otherwise..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 17:55
Originally posted by cata352004 cata352004 wrote:

please give me a link !!!!!!
Originally posted by C-hass C-hass wrote:

So it seems like the a77 won't have 24p.
Really Sony?

Originally posted by <a href=http://gadgetactive.com/sony-a77-a800-specifications-released.gadget target=_blank rel=nofollow>Gadget Active</a> Gadget Active wrote:

Video recording ...
1080p @ 30FPS
720p @ 60FPS and 30FPS
Video-info also on:
http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/sr5-first-worldwide-picture-of-the-final-a77-and-a65-production-models/
Among others.

I suspect SonyAlphaRumors is the "breaking" site, where the info first came public. Most seem to use the SAR images, and the same data.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 20:01
Did anybody else notice this pattern?

Maxxum 7D     6 MP      2005
Alpha 700    12 MP      2007
Alpha 77     24 MP      2011

Following this pattern, we can expect to get the a77 successor in 2019, and it will have 48 MP


Isn't extrapolating data so much fun?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 20:09
Originally posted by photoman photoman wrote:

Did anybody else notice this pattern?

Maxxum 7D     6 MP      2005
Alpha 700    12 MP      2007
Alpha 77     24 MP      2011

Following this pattern, we can expect to get the a77 successor in 2019, and it will have 48 MP


Isn't extrapolating data so much fun?


And from that pattern, what do you extrapolate the name to be?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 20:13
Originally posted by photoman photoman wrote:

Did anybody else notice this pattern?

Maxxum 7D     6 MP      2005
Alpha 700    12 MP      2007
Alpha 77     24 MP      2011

Following this pattern, we can expect to get the a77 successor in 2019, and it will have 48 MP


No, no, no. You've got it all wrong!

The chip will follow a doubling pattern, it's true (6-12-24-48). However, the timetable will be linear: not a gap of 2-4-8 years but 2-4-6 years; and at that, they'll have to hold it back a year, just to get an adequate whine going online about "overdue" products.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 20:15
Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:

And from that pattern, what do you extrapolate the name to be?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 July 2011 at 20:17
Originally posted by Steve-S Steve-S wrote:


No, no, no. You've got it all wrong!

The chip will follow a doubling pattern, it's true (6-12-24-48). However, the timetable will be linear: not a gap of 2-4-8 years but 2-4-6 years; and at that, they'll have to hold it back a year, just to get an adequate whine going online about "overdue" products.



- Steve S.
(btw -- I like your move, here, over to the successor to the a700-successor...)



I decided to assume an exponential pattern for the years. According to the pattern we have, the sensors add 3 MP per year. If that continues, it would give the following pattern for the years, 2-4-8.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2011 at 07:36
Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:

Originally posted by photoman photoman wrote:

Did anybody else notice this pattern?

Maxxum 7D     6 MP      2005
Alpha 700    12 MP      2007
Alpha 77     24 MP      2011

Following this pattern, we can expect to get the a77 successor in 2019, and it will have 48 MP


Isn't extrapolating data so much fun?


And from that pattern, what do you extrapolate the name to be?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 09 July 2011 at 08:03
Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:


And from that pattern, what do you extrapolate the name to be?


Why can't Sony just keep the same name, and just have differing generations?

Eventually they're gonna run out of number combinations.
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