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Posts: 57 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2011 at 03:04
Far be it from me to add confusion to what already seems to be bedlam over the A77 guessing game.

It appears to make sense that if the A65 is released with specs close to the A77, it would take sales from the A77, which of course, Sony wouldn't want.

My guess would be that the A77 may get a high resolution EVF and the A65 would get the current EVF as featured on the A55 etc. That way, the A77 would be seen to have a clear advantage and delineate it as a more "serious" camera. I don't think that the metal body alone would really make that much difference to a buyer who wasn't a follower of the finer points that have been discussed here over the last couple of months. In some cases it would be a disadvantage, as it makes the camera heavier.

There were 2 different viewfinders in the 850/900, which may be a clue.

Purely a random speculation, based on nothing more than thinking about it from a marketing/segment placement point of view.

Edited by otherboss - 24 June 2011 at 03:05
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Images of production models of the new Sony Alpha a77 and a65 are on the web: see this link: http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/first-images-of-sony-a77-a65-dslrs-leaked-online-969897
Including these technical details: The blog reports the Sony A77 will be Sony's new top APS-C DSLR and replace the Alpha 700. The source claims its specs will include an ISO range from 100 up to 102,400.
The Sony A77 is also said to use a new double Bionz processor, boast a 3-million-dot OLED EVF and shoot more than 10fps, with 11 cross AF points.
Release date moved back to August due to Tsunami and Fukoshima impacts.




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Originally posted by Jozioau Jozioau wrote:

Images of production models of the new Sony Alpha a77 and a65 are on the web: see this link: http://www.techradar.com/news/photography-video-capture/cameras/first-images-of-sony-a77-a65-dslrs-leaked-online-969897
Including these technical details: The blog reports the Sony A77 will be Sony's new top APS-C DSLR and replace the Alpha 700. The source claims its specs will include an ISO range from 100 up to 102,400.
The Sony A77 is also said to use a new double Bionz processor, boast a 3-million-dot OLED EVF and shoot more than 10fps, with 11 cross AF points.
Release date moved back to August due to Tsunami and Fukoshima impacts.




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Is the A65 the successor of the A55?
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Originally posted by Yakim Yakim wrote:

Is the A65 the successor of the A55?


That's what was sugggested on sony alpha rumors and to my mind makes sense of releasing the two cameras together
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Originally posted by PhotoTraveler PhotoTraveler wrote:

As is commented many times, there is lots of features in cameras some people don't use. Just the way it is. But the A55 had 2 big things, SLT and GPS.   I'm pretty sure GPS was a big part of it's success.
Indeed, for example, GPS was The Feature, that made me to desire α55. Obviously as my previous DSLRs were KM 7D, Sony α700 and α900 I would have preferred bit bigger body and more advanced controls, so it is fairly certain that once these new bigger SLTs are available I'll get one. Might still keep α55 since I have started to kinda like the compact size despite its associated disadvantages (primarily weak battery life).
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Posts: 370 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 June 2011 at 18:51
Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:

Originally posted by Yakim Yakim wrote:

Is the A65 the successor of the A55?


That's what was sugggested on sony alpha rumors and to my mind makes sense of releasing the two cameras together


Thanks. Sony naming convention tends to get confusing at times.
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Posts: 337 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 June 2011 at 13:39
Originally posted by Yakim Yakim wrote:

Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:

Originally posted by Yakim Yakim wrote:

Is the A65 the successor of the A55?


That's what was sugggested on sony alpha rumors and to my mind makes sense of releasing the two cameras together


Thanks. Sony naming convention tends to get confusing at times.


Yakim, Andrea at SAR has told me that his sources are calling the A65 "the successor to the A55." However, I am intrigued by Sony's use of the 6-series instead of the 5-series numbering for this. I am just wondering whether there might not be a another 5-series camera as well.

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Originally posted by Winedarksea Winedarksea wrote:

Originally posted by Yakim Yakim wrote:

Originally posted by tigertimb tigertimb wrote:

Originally posted by Yakim Yakim wrote:

Is the A65 the successor of the A55?


That's what was sugggested on sony alpha rumors and to my mind makes sense of releasing the two cameras together


Thanks. Sony naming convention tends to get confusing at times.


Yakim, Andrea at SAR has told me that his sources are calling the A65 "the successor to the A55." However, I am intrigued by Sony's use of the 6-series instead of the 5-series numbering for this. I am just wondering whether there might not be a another 5-series camera as well.


I am intrigued as well. I wondered if there will be a 6-series as well.
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I am planning on traveling to Nepal later in the year and was considering buying an a55 because of the gps and pan capabilities, using it instead of my a700 and / or 850. I will be going to a place called Larabina Yak which has a great view sweeping probably 135 degrees including the Annapurnas and into Tibet.

I've done a little research into the a77. It looks like I would be ahead of the game to sell my a700 (about $550 on the auction site) and put the money into an a77 for $1k.

???s
Will the a77 have the pan and gps?

The latest I've seen on the web states a july 7 release date. Or is this the announcement date with a later release date? I was wanting to leave in late september, but would wait a mo. or 2 for a new camera.

I haven't done any pan stitching in photoshop. Is that an equally valid option for this width of pan? To rephrase, which will do a better job. Am concerned about changes in the scene (e.g. clouds) with the extra time that would be required for multiple shots.
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Posts: 1750 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2011 at 04:11
Originally posted by rdtindsm rdtindsm wrote:


???s
Will the a77 have the pan and gps?

I would put money on them both being in

The latest I've seen on the web states a july 7 release date. Or is this the announcement date with a later release date? I was wanting to leave in late september, but would wait a mo. or 2 for a new camera.

that was to be the announcement date but it's now been put off again.
I wouldn't put money on the A77 being in the shops in September

I haven't done any pan stitching in photoshop. Is that an equally valid option for this width of pan? To rephrase, which will do a better job. Am concerned about changes in the scene (e.g. clouds) with the extra time that would be required for multiple shots.

doing it in software will do a better job esp. if you have a tripod with appropriate head etc.
The in-camera only works in jpeg.
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Also if the A77 follows existing shooting modes, you wont' be able to do the auto-panorama with the camera in portrait mode. (Unless doing a vertical panarama.) To cram the most detail into a pano, that's the way to go, and so far the A33/35/55/Nex's can't stitch that direction. So as usual, you're better off doing it manually. Photoshop is probably best, but Microsoft's ICE is quite nice, free, and fast. Worth checking out.
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Posts: 4671 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 June 2011 at 07:48
Originally posted by utcreeper utcreeper wrote:

Also if the A77 follows existing shooting modes, you wont' be able to do the auto-panorama with the camera in portrait mode. (Unless doing a vertical panarama.) To cram the most detail into a pano, that's the way to go, and so far the A33/35/55/Nex's can't stitch that direction.
Um, at least α55 has option to select which direction you should move the camera when shooting sweep panorama. If you select up or down, you can shoot also in portrait orientation.
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Originally posted by Hezu Hezu wrote:

Originally posted by utcreeper utcreeper wrote:

Also if the A77 follows existing shooting modes, you wont' be able to do the auto-panorama with the camera in portrait mode. (Unless doing a vertical panarama.) To cram the most detail into a pano, that's the way to go, and so far the A33/35/55/Nex's can't stitch that direction.
Um, at least α55 has option to select which direction you should move the camera when shooting sweep panorama. If you select up or down, you can shoot also in portrait orientation.


My NEX-5 has this option too and is the normal way I use it.

You'd be forgiven for missing it though, as Sony has done a nice job of scattering the panorama options: you select normal/wide from the size menu and set the panorama direction from the camera menu
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