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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2007 at 01:56
Maffe: i guess you are right:) that lens is too damn expensive..

revdocjim: this is where my line up have grown from:) the 28/2.8 and 50/1.7 couple. It is the cheapest prime set you can have and it performs good:)
 



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The 100-200/4.5 is a lens I would like to try!
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omerbeys M42 list is great!

My thoughts, how I would start and expand from step 1 to 2 and so on, but no need to stay in the a/b-direction

step 1a (two lenses):
18-70
75-300 original big beercan, not a later version;
because the 18-70 is nice at wide angle, but loses at tele; if the focal length between 50 and 100 is not so important, I would say:
18-70
100-200/4.5

alternative 1b (almost same price, but with a prime, but three lenses):
18-70
50/1.7
100-200/4.5

step 2a (more expensive)
17-35 (not the G!)
35-70/4 (important, not the variable 3.5-4.5, that's a mess)
100-200

alternative 2b
17-35
50/1.7
100-200 or more expensive: 75-300

step 3 (spending even more money)
17-35
28-75
100-200 and later the 100-300 (only the APO, all other you can leave out)

out of competition is my 35-200xi. It's a real nice lens! Together with the 17-35 you have pretty much of focal length.

Edited by binbald - 03 April 2007 at 01:58
Regards, Michael

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Maffe: i'm getting the 100-200 from binbald (lucky, he is the previous poster) its still on the way:) i'll inform you with my impressions:)

Binbald: having a focal length cut-off at 35mm must be really weird imo. that 17-35 + 35-70 thingy, two 2x zooms! but i guess you could go walkaround with 17-35 only. Leaving the 35-70 to be a short tele.. If you can stand the little gap, there are 55-200 zooms from sigma and tamron i suppose.. they should perform equally or better than your 35-300 and could replace both lenses if you can live without the 35-55 range (which is too small to cry about indeed)

this brings me to another great cheap line up:

17-35 + 55-200, simple and effective

17-50 + 70-300 or 70-210 shouldnt be forgotten too, but it can be a lil expensive?
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I'm all about "budget," so a perfect thread for me:

18-70 kit - free with 7D
28-85/3.5-4.5 $60 used
50/1.7 - $40 used
70-210/4 - $60 used (pre-7D days)
Tamron 90/2.8 $225 used

A broad range, pretty decent glass, cheap, cheap, cheap.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2007 at 02:11
santiclaws:
you got two overlapping lenses there, the 18-70 and the 28-85, do they have their seperate uses? or is one sitting at home all the time?

that must be a good price for a tamron 90:)
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote binbald Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2007 at 02:14
Indeed the 17-35 is a nice walkaround. I have done this quite often. When I'm out on the streets with my wife she's always complaining: oh, not again changing lenses... or when I'm at a party and I'm too lazy too change: I go with the 17-35. Maybe some heads are looking a bit weird, but with 1.5 crop it's a good choice.

The 17-35/35-70 is more a choice for covering the whole focal length. I personally would prefer: 17-35 as dedicated wide angle, 50/1.7 (or maybe macro, but that's too expensive in this thread) and 75-300 or 100-200, depending on focal length.

You have noticed that I never mentioned the beercan. But the others deliver more for less money: 75-300 more focal length, and 100-200 saves more money and is easier to carry.

I've never tried the 55-200 zooms, but I like the 35-200 (I just have a heart for underdogs). I think I should go shooting some pics with that when my cam is back again - ha, that's my new mission: convince dyxum members of loving the 35-200!!!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2007 at 02:20
Originally posted by binbald binbald wrote:

I just have a heart for underdogs...
...that's my new mission: convince dyxum members of loving the 35-200!!!


lol:) you are just like me:) i already convinced the half of dyxum about cosina 100/3.5 ;) good luck with the 35-200:)
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And the other half is looking for fishes=)
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The 28-135 is a great lens and cheap too considering its range and performance.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2007 at 02:28
lol @ Maffe:) i'm still waiting for my zenitar, i hope it turns out good:)
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Post Options Post Options   Quote binbald Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2007 at 02:30
Originally posted by Maffe Maffe wrote:

And the other half is looking for fishes=)


so the ideal future dyxum lineup would be:
16 fish
35-200 xi
50 Takumar
100/3.5 cosina
and every now and then we try to "dCap" our lenses (=renew our definitive lineup)

I like this dyxum-family!
Regards, Michael

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Originally posted by Turerkan Turerkan wrote:

santiclaws:
you got two overlapping lenses there, the 18-70 and the 28-85, do they have their seperate uses? or is one sitting at home all the time?

that must be a good price for a tamron 90:)


Well, I already had the 28-85 when I got the kit lens "free" and neither is worth selling for the $60 they'll bring. I use (OK, intend to use) the kit almost like an 18mm prime when I want wide coverage. The 28-85 is a better lens, especially at longer ranges, but also considerably heavier.

The Tamron 90 price wasn't anything special at the time. I bought it about a year ago for slightly less than it was going on ebay from KEH.com in excellent condition. I assume from your post the prices have gone up.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Turerkan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 April 2007 at 02:35
binbald: lol:)
santiclaws: i think the 90s go for more nowadays, not sure though..

btw, i think cosina should better be my lens sponsor:) i've already done enough advertisement on their behalf:P
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