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Post Options Post Options   Quote ant! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2018 at 17:06
And a $20 (plus shipping) 28-105 is on my way

Quick (not lens, but cheap equipment related) question:
Would my Minolta 360px work with a shoe adapter on the Maxxum 7, with TTL? Or should I get a HS5400, which are cheap as well. Or gives the HS5600 any advantage of the HS5400, beside some remote syncing improvements?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2018 at 17:21
The Minolta 360px is a flash from the manual focus ara, it will not work with TTL.
The 5400HS does i think, but better check the MHohner site. The biggest advantage of the 5600HS(D) is the (D) part: it works with digital cameras.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ant! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2018 at 18:52
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

The Minolta 360px is a flash from the manual focus ara, it will not work with TTL.


The 360px is from the MF area, but with TTL flash functionality (with X700, X500/570 etc.). It also works with the AF bodies before the hotshoe was changed, so before the i-series. That's why I was wondering if a hotshoe adapter would preserve the TTL capability or not...
Here: https://www.mhohner.de/sony-minolta/flashcomp_acc.php is an adapter Minolta FS-1100 mentioned, this sounds like what I am looking for? Of course I'd need to check if the adapter or a new flash would be cheaper...

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I found here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IISO_flash_shoe#Electronic_Contacts the following: "The electrical interface and protocol is backward-compatible with the older Minolta hotshoe, except for that it does not support the F4 signal, which was provided by the first generation of Minolta AF SLRs to control the AF illuminator, as this function became part of the digital protocol."

-> So at least for film cameras with AF, this simple adapter should work with TTL, also the mhoner-link mentions OTF-TTL...
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Post Options Post Options   Quote sybersitizen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2018 at 20:02
^ I think that is correct. The 360PX and FS-1100 should allow TTL autoflash (and automatic x-sync?) on the Maxxum 7. You might lose the AF illuminator, and you might also lose the flash distance check signal according to this page describing how it works on the 7000.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cliff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2018 at 21:24
Originally posted by addy landzaat addy landzaat wrote:

I wonder what you mean by Pan-X, maybe Kodak Plus X Pan? If you want a fine grained general purpose film look at Ilford Delta 100 and 400 and if you want a "exceptionally fine grain" film, the Ilford Pan F is your film


Hi Addy, Yes Kodak, product Panatomic X. At ASA32 it was twice as fast as Kodachrome at 16. That's why some of us shot mostly Tri-X at race speed ASA 400 with fast lenses, slow shutters, and learned to love grain and motion blur. Then came developers that let us push it to 1200 and 1600, that was when we learned to both love and adore grain.

For better or mostly worse, I have not looked back to film since I jumped into the digital pool. I do however, still enjoy shooting old glass. I submit that the 50mm f1.5 Sonnar off my old Contax IIIa holds up pretty well, with the exception of modern coatings. Quite a few of the other older lenses I have accumulated have too, especially including Minolta MC/MD (some shared with Leica), Miranda and an assortment of Vivitars from the 70's. I've still got a collection of A mount adapters, mostly with glass, that I never liked much. Old glass, short registration and cheap glassless adapters were what pushed me dip my toe in the E mount water.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Cliff Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 October 2018 at 21:29
Originally posted by ant! ant! wrote:

And a $20 (plus shipping) 28-105 is on my way Cheers!


Hope it does as well for you as mine has for me. The price was sure right, I paid more for mine.
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Originally posted by Turerkan Turerkan wrote:


here is my lineup:

Zenitar 16/2.8: super wide for $135, i can manual focus, and manual stop down isnt a big problem too

Minolta 28/2: my walkaround lens, best of them all, %90 of my photography is done with it! this is why i decided to make a unusual-for-myself investment into this focal length. its 320. Yet it can be replaced by the $70 28/2.8 if that focal length is not important for you.

Minolta 50/1.7: short telephoto, portrait lens, almost a 85G on aps-c! and i got mine for $40

Cosina 100/3.5 macro: my main telephoto, my macro. Super sharp, contrasty, great bokeh and so on.. great IQ shortly, if you can stand the build quality and can manual focus. i got it for 70

Minolta 100-200/4.5: in case i need 200mm, i usually dont. It goes for around $80 i suppose.

i have the 18-70 too, but don't use it.

The total cost is around $700. It could be much cheaper with a 28/2.8, like around $350

Looking back to the start of this thread and Turekan's $700 line-up it is interesting to contemplate how prices have changed and other lenses have appeared. For instance 16mm doesn't seem so super-wide today - though it is plenty wide enough for most purposes.

As Turerkan was APS-C based (the A900 had not yet appeared) I will pick the lenses I would keep from my selection to shoot APS-C in a $700 budget (which I shall convert to 650gbp - a generous conversion rate, but prices do seem higher over here and we've had 11 years inflation since then). Prices are what I paid.

1. Sony 16-50mm f2.8 DT (230gbp) simply the best zoom I have experienced.

2. Minolta 100mm f2.8 D macro (140gbp) - sharp, macro, long portrait, great lens.

3. Minolta 50mm f2.8 macro (60gbp) - my favourite 50mm, sharp, sharp, sharp.

4. Sony 35mm f1.8 DT (95gbp) - great standard lens for APS-C.

5. Minolta 70-210mm f4 (45gbp) - I don't use longer lenses much, the beercan does what I need, though I might be tempted by the lighter version 2.

570gbp so far and anything else is a bonus -

6. Minolta 50mm f1.7 (35gbp) for the low light short tele / portrait stuff.

7. Minolta 100-200mm f4.5 (25gbp) for something lighter than the beercan to pack for a hike.

630gbp

The one I find most difficult to leave out is the superb Sony 85mm f2.8 DT (95gbp) which seems a luxury alongside the 50 & 100mm macros. But I might sacrifice the beercan and the 50mm f1.7 in order to hang on to it and stick within the 650gbp budget. Otherwise I'd try to pick up a Sony 18-55mm f3.5-5.6 SAM II for the remaining 20gbp - I like it as a zoom in my pocket when I'm out with a prime on the camera (the 16-50mm needs a rather large pocket).

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Post Options Post Options   Quote beeton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2020 at 23:27
Some new ponies for my thoroughbred...
Picked up some "new" glass for my A7M2 (via an LAEA4 adapter).

So, new stuff is: A Maxxum 24-50 F4. Super clean throughout.
Maxxum 50 f1.7, a repeat item and I have a Sony 50 1.8 plus Sony 50 1.4.
Sigma 70-210 f2.8 APO.
Maxxum 500mm reflex.
Vivitar 100-400 f4.5/6.7 Series 1.

I have read about compatibility issues with the AF on some of these Sigma lenses when used on the Sony bodies but this has been working 100% with thA7/laea4 combo. As for soft images that were reported by some, apart from issues with specific copies, I expect some of those were caused by lack of micro-focus adjust capabilities on older bodies. On the A7M2, a +3 setting seems to work best.
It had a case of the Sigma-stickies; leaving lots of glue on my hands after use, but I have wiped off all of the goo....and most of the lettering but it's much more pleasant now.

DXO11 recognizes the A7M2 body and the lens is identified as a Sigma 70-200 f2.8 HSM and also Maxxum 70-200 f2.8. I chose the Sigma module for download and corrections really help.

The 500 was a rescue as it was suffering from moisture and mold/fungus. Tore it down with some help from a post I found on Dyxum and it is nearly perfect. Focus is fine and there is just a hint of fungus on the extreme outside of the rear element, not enough to warrant removing it as it is held in by a strong clip that refused to budge. No DXO module for that lens but manual corrections improve things.

I haven't tested the 24-50 or 100-400 yet but hope to take some comparison snaps against my FE 24-240 and G 70-300.

So, the list, starting at the widest is:
Bower 8mm
Maxxum 24mm f2.8
(Sony E 16mm)
(Sony 16-50 PZ)
Sony 30mm macro
Sigma 30mm f1.4
Maxxum 50mm f1.7
Sony 50mm f1.4
Tamron SP 90 Macro
FE 28-70
FE 24-240
G 70-300
Vivitar Series 1 100-400
Tokina 11-16 F2.8
Canon 58 f1.2 MF

and looking for a new home...
Sigma 10-20 F4
Sony 18-135
Tamron 18-200
Tamron 28-200
Tamron 28-300 (not the old, lumpy ones)
Sony DT 55-200

I hope to post some comparisons in the upcoming weeks, as weather and time permit.


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Some FE-lenses I would recommend to put on the list of great value for your money :
Samyang 35/2.8 AF and 45/1.8 AF

No adapter needed, quick and accurate AF, really good image quality, light and small, and relateively cheap.

I have come to love them in combination with my A7RIII.
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Originally posted by Paul07 Paul07 wrote:

Some FE-lenses I would recommend to put on the list of great value for your money :
Samyang 35/2.8 AF and 45/1.8 AF

No adapter needed, quick and accurate AF, really good image quality, light and small, and relateively cheap.

I have come to love them in combination with my A7RIII.


Indeed they are good. The samyang 18mm f2.8 also seems great for the price.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote QuietOC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2020 at 18:55
Sony A7RIV LA-EA5
Pentax Q7 5-15 15-45/2.8 8.5/1.9 11.5/9
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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2020 at 19:19
Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

The Cheap Lineup for E-mount Thread is here.


Thanks, can't believe I missed it considering I started it for e-mount

My excuse is I am using a phone
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Post Options Post Options   Quote beeton Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 January 2020 at 21:39
Well. as it turns out, the Sigma 70-210 f2.8 is now exhibiting some roughness in the af ring. I was taking some test images with my A7ii (la-a4) and noticed the focus was struggling a bit. Looks like I have to dig in and check thing out. Lens is sharp and I will be disappointed if repair is not possible. Yep, I know this is an E mount forum but I am using on an E mount after-all.
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