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Posts: 11909 		Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 December 2018 at 20:42
@Aavo: why not multi metering? That is my choice with all my cameras. Putting spot metering under the ael button for the times I need it. I do not understand why you would choose spot (big or small) as your standard metering option.
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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Oh that and IBIS


And that great a6500 buffer too. It does have advantages, and I considered it very carefully before deciding on the a6300.

The 6300 is designated as a crew camera, for video only. It will probably be used more by other people than me, for behind the scenes work. All will be encouraged to pick it up and shoot whatever. It is set for Advance IAuto, so it's kind of foolproof... cept when a fool such as I picks it up.

Had I intended the camera for stills, then the 6500 IBIS and buffer would have made a deciding difference. But the 6500 video IBIS doesn't rate very well, not much different than the 6300 with OSS lenses, which I have. And the buffer doesn't matter for video. And if someone drops it, then it won't sting as bad... not quite.

I also considered the RX10mkII, but it doesn't shoot as wide as the 10-18mm.
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Originally posted by Aavo Aavo wrote:

Originally posted by Atom Ant Oz Atom Ant Oz wrote:

While my home is still in A-mount, I have purchased an A6500 as a lightweight camera for travel. I miss the controls of my A99II, but I think it will do nicely anyway. The A6500's first big test will be in a few weeks when I'll have it as my principal camera while I'm holidaying in Penang.

My hint here is to learn to use all a6500 ISO AUTO and ISO AUTO Min.SS sweets and Metering Mode Spot Large versus Entire Screen, and you can find out, that you can survive with less direct controls, surely when shooting stills and not moving subjects

[OFF TOPIC]I took Mark Galer's advice and added ISO Auto Min. SS to my Fn menu.

I would prefer it if I could have the same Fn menu across cameras, but the lack of buttons means that some functions need to be demoted to Fn, pushing other functions off completely. Meh, if that was the biggest problem in my life I should be a very lucky person![/OFF TOPIC]
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Posts: 5399 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2018 at 09:10
I am sorry and I like to END this OFF TOPIC, what I started with hint about ISO AUTO and Metering Mode.
Just for ending: ISO, ISO Auto Min.SS and Metering Mode are on my a6500 under Left, Right and Down buttons, well located for quick use, not in Fn Menu.
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Posts: 11909 		Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2018 at 09:44
Originally posted by Aavo Aavo wrote:

I am sorry and I like to END this OFF TOPIC, what I started with hint about ISO AUTO and Metering Mode.
Just for ending: ISO, ISO Auto Min.SS and Metering Mode are on my a6500 under Left, Right and Down buttons, well located for quick use, not in Fn Menu.
Well, you did not answer my question about using spot metering, I find that one very odd. If you do not want to answer here, please send me a PM.
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Posts: 5399 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Aavo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2018 at 10:35
So ENDING once again :)
Can be, that I have not selected the best combination.
I use Large Spot and Entire Screen about year or more now, because these are located in submenu next to each other and because of this are so good for quick switching with wheel button - just one step to turn the wheel. Because of these nice metering modes, on a6500 now, I rarely use exp comp and these 2 options are replacing exp comp for me (exp comp can easily be located even in Fn menu). For me a6500 exp metering is more precise than on my replaced NEX7. The next step for exp correction is PC software.
But yes, I am speaking about shooting stills, not video (I do not do).
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I keep seeing all these new lenses on the Sony Alpha Rumors website, but the prices are crazy, they put a fancy name on the description and ramp up the prices, way out of the scope of many normal people........

I still find it hard to work out how you meter with a fully manual lens too
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Yes, prices of aps-c and FF lenses are very different.
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I find that all the latest glass has either a name like Zeiss, or Batis or Luxia on it, or has things like G, GM , whether its A or E mount, and the price is crazy, not everyone needs fast glass, all I needs is good glass at reasonable prices.

Surely it must be possible to make and sell a 135mm f2.8 for around £250.

Its not all about speed.
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Posts: 32036 		Post Options Post Options   Quote pegelli Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2018 at 11:43
Originally posted by sploosher sploosher wrote:


I still find it hard to work out how you meter with a fully manual lens too
I can try to help (since I do that a lot), but maybe we should start a new thread on that? Seems a good subject in this forum.Why don't you start there describing what your problem is and then others (and me) can chime in with their methods and experience.
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Originally posted by Aavo Aavo wrote:

So ENDING once again :)
Can be, that I have not selected the best combination.
I use Large Spot and Entire Screen about year or more now, because these are located in submenu next to each other and because of this are so good for quick switching with wheel button - just one step to turn the wheel. Because of these nice metering modes, on a6500 now, I rarely use exp comp and these 2 options are replacing exp comp for me (exp comp can easily be located even in Fn menu). For me a6500 exp metering is more precise than on my replaced NEX7. The next step for exp correction is PC software.
But yes, I am speaking about shooting stills, not video (I do not do).
Thank you! You basically do the same as me. I usually use multi metering and spot under AEL. Now the OT ends
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Originally posted by sploosher sploosher wrote:


Surely it must be possible to make and sell a 135mm f2.8 for around £250.

Its not all about speed.
I have high hopes Samyang bring out an AF budget 135/2.8 or 135/4. Would be a nice compliment to ther budget 24, 35 and 50 mm AF lenses. I have not seen any rumours or so, just simple "wishful thinking".

Until then it's MF with my old OM Zuiko 135/2.8, which is optically a stellar lens.
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Originally posted by sploosher sploosher wrote:

Surely it must be possible to make and sell a 135mm f2.8 for around £250.

Its not all about speed.


Not if it is an APO design apparently.
The Samyang 135/2 is optically on par with the very best. And fairly cheap if you don’t mind MF
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Posts: 11909 		Post Options Post Options   Quote addy landzaat Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 December 2018 at 16:37
The Samyang is 500 without AF.

TBH, I do not understand the complaint about prices. Sony has a more or less affordable short tele with the 85/1.8, you might prefer 135mm,but still. Also, there is the 28/2 and even the 50/1.8. If you want a affordable but good set of lenses in FE mount, it is available.
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