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Post Options Post Options   Quote rovhazman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 15:41
Just to be clear, I am also not losing sleep over it and Sony is not to be blamed for my white hair... Moreover, I just ordered Tamron 180mm macro lens with alpha mount - I am not going to stop enjoying the present because of some speculations about the future...

I started the thread to share some concern, but also to open a discussion about what we can learn about the alpha mount from the new cameras, not necessary in the negative way. After all, we just see what Sony engineers were working on in the last year or so, therefore we maybe can learn what to expect from the A7xx and other future cameras. And maybe not...
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote mrggt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 15:50
Originally posted by PMacinSeattle PMacinSeattle wrote:

mrggt - my guess is that the NEX cameras have been kicking around inside Sony for a long long time


this is only a guess like you say but don't you think it's funny we get plenty of rumours for the alpha line and not so many for this latest nex range yet it all comes out so quickly. only a year/ 18 months ago sony say they are interested in how olympus pen cameras perform before they will produce a similar line, yet the a700 replacement has been required for a lot longer and still we wait. i will have a guess and say resources have been put towards producing the nex line and a7xx can wait a little longer if this is correct it is dissappointing imo
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Post Options Post Options   Quote skm.sa100 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 16:07
If the alpha line gets discontinued, I'll be a happy camper. I'll buy up 3-4 bodies and wait for a couple of years for the lenses to drop in value.
Then I'll buy all the G and CZ lenses that I can currently only dream about!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote civisant Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 16:12
Anyone want to guess if this E-mount camcorder or the A7xx will come out first?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote vinayn Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 16:18
Maybe the A7XX has been delayed as they may wanted to perfect a few features that they have used in NEX (Like video) and release a better DSLR instead of just increasing the megapixels and a few other features like the Nikon D300S did.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mrggt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 16:24
i would rather no video and a L50 cheaper cam myself but i don't buy this that sony wants to get it right thats why it takes so long to produce a7xx they could have produced something of an upgrade 2yrs ago and we should now be talking about the replacement for the a7xx maybe the recession hit them a lot harder and they need a quick buck from this nex line who knows
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Post Options Post Options   Quote mrggt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 16:26
@ civisant I DONT WANT VIDEO guess you know what i think which comes first
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Winedarksea Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 17:02
According to Thom Hogan last Fall, Sony had had a crash program working on the NEX cameras for two years already at that time--to meet the micro 4/3 challenge. Nikon will follow soon with its own mirrorless designs.

We may never know what has delayed the A7xx so long--it could be any one of many factors, or (more likely) a combination. However, look at it this way: on the average, Nikon has introduced a new midrange (ie, A700 level) dslr camera on the average every two and a half years. Since it now seems certain now that that A7xx will be introduced at or before Photokina 2010, in September, there will have been a three-year gap in Sony introductions of midrange dslr cameras--more than the Nikon average, to be sure, but not terribly more.

Meanwhile, Sony will introduce new A2xx/3xx cameras within about a month--on good authority. I have no clue about the A9xx, but I expect that it will not be far behind the new A7xx.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Stelios Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 17:11
I'm personally not that optimistic and the reason is not only because Sony produced NEX and a new mount. I'm worried about three things:

a) Sony's priorities in general: Low-end bodies, Point and Shoot and NEX. Sony is unfortunately primarily a consumer electronics company and not a camera manufacturer. Otherwise there would have been an upgrade for all camera bodies that would at least allow for better manual lenses control (a700 doesn't need it).
b) The decision to choose the E mount instead of the alpha for their camcorder. Is it only size considerations in this case or there is a whole turn to the E mount from the company and we will be left out?
c) The discontinuation of the a900 without a replacement. I can accept that what happened with the a700 was a mistake, there was a global financial crisis, they had to include video, new competitive products forced them to upgrade features, etc. But how about the a900? It seems that sony does not learn from its mistakes.

For the time being I have stopped investing in lenses or a new camera. I am spending on studio equipment, filter systems, etc. that can be used by any camera model. I'm not ready to jump ship because I am relatively satisfied with my a700, but I wouldn't mind a full frame sometime in the next 12 months and the d700 looks very sweet.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Serdar A Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 17:13
Originally posted by rovhazman rovhazman wrote:

Just to be clear, I am also not losing sleep over it and Sony is not to be blamed for my white hair... Moreover, I just ordered Tamron 180mm macro lens with alpha mount - I am not going to stop enjoying the present because of some speculations about the future...


Two for Tamron 180mm macro.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 17:21
Originally posted by PMacinSeattle PMacinSeattle wrote:

mrggt - my guess is that the NEX cameras have been kicking around inside Sony for a long long time and its not so much that the NEXs have delayed the Alpha's but more likely the other way around.

I actually think Sony has given-up on an entire line of products that was supposed to be released along with the introduction of SAM lenses. IMHO, things on the market changed faster than Sony has planned and that's the reason their releases were quite anarchic, confusing with evident holes and behind competition on some aspects.

Now, i don't know what will happen with a-mount DSLR in the near future (Sony focus at low end DSLR market in the past may hit them badly in the future) but i'm quite confident than DSLR cameras (middle to high end class and not necessarily all current brands ) will be with us much longer than NEX ones (or 4/3 micro for that matter).

Sure, in short term, these new cameras will do great on the market but honestly i don't see them last for too long; gadgets needs come and go and it is only a question of when new "revolutionary" system will start to appear (modular system for example)

Edited by Kiklop - 11 May 2010 at 17:33
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Post Options Post Options   Quote groovyone Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 17:25
I am hoping the NEX cameras will give us some indication of features we'll see on the new A7XX and A9XX. The video features, like em or not, are more impressive on paper than ANY of their competitors.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote radimus Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 17:27
The NEX and the DSLR lines are pointed at different markets, and as such I don't see one replacing the other.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote kiklop Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2010 at 17:32
Originally posted by Stelios Stelios wrote:

Sony is unfortunately primarily a consumer electronics company and not a camera manufacturer.


Yep; if i didn't missed something, NEX cameras do provide smile detection sensitivity indicator but fail to provide one of the most basic aid for photographers; level (or horizon) indicator which is a "mainstream" feature these days.
To compete on DSLR market in the future (now when many will actually find NEX type of cameras more than enough and ditch their DSLR ones), they should understand DSLR target user much, much better than they did so far. And for company like Sony, that may be a harder challenge than providing FF stabilized sensor :(
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