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Post Options Post Options   Quote nandbytes Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2021 at 16:37
Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

The e-mount lens lineup thread shows I have been through a lot


Have you considered professional counseling for your problem?


The thought had crossed my mind
But then that means accepting I have a problem which I don't of course
 



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Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

The e-mount lens lineup thread shows I have been through a lot


Have you considered professional counseling for your problem?


The thought had crossed my mind
But then that means accepting I have a problem which I don't of course


I got cured from the GAS some time ago realizing I have enough stuff.
So now I only have a tiny list of things to buy: 50, 35, 24. 14 GMs, an a1 (or two). Oh, and that 600/4 looks so nice for the occasional moon shot
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Phil Wood Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2021 at 18:10
I suspect I shall never reach true lens satisfaction - I am not convinced it even exists.

Currently I am A-mount only (okay there are a few adapted M42s - but I have ne real yearnings in that direction). There are a number of A Mount lenses I would love to have - but I cannot convince myself to spend £500+ on a lens very often.

Which is the problem with E-mount - almost all the lenses that seem desirable are in that price bracket.

And the reality is that, for my style of shooting, I really don't need more than I already have. However, desire is not really about need, I still want those high priced lenses.

And, yes, I would like an A1 with a few top-notch modern lenses.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2021 at 20:25
Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:



I got cured from the GAS some time ago realizing I have enough stuff.
So now I only have a tiny list of things to buy: 50, 35, 24. 14 GMs, an a1 (or two). Oh, and that 600/4 looks so nice for the occasional moon shot


This appears to be some new definition of "cured" I was not previously aware of
a7riii- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
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Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

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But there are other differences between A-mount and E-mount. There are loads more 'average' zooms in A-mount that can be tried cheaply to see if there is anything you like, but if you want wide primes, E-mount has a better selection.


A good point. The wide-angle options in the E-mount are much more extensive, and would be something landscape photographer would notice more. But there are still some quite good zoom options that are not in the GM range. The recent 28-60, the kit 28-70, some of the Tamron and Sigma lenses. There are also two 100-400 zoom lenses for instance in the E-mount, and that's not something I saw (new) in the A-mount.

I agree that there's not a lot that can be tried cheaply in E-mount though, albeit there many more comprehensive review sites. It's possible to get a lot more prior information without 'buying one'.

Originally posted by Miranda F Miranda F wrote:

I think I pretty much reached the lens contentment stage in A-mount, bearing in mind I don't do FF except in film. In E-mount there's a long way to go, but I've tried to spend time with the LA-EA4 and those older FF lenses I do have. The big hole in my lens collection (either format) is f2.8 constant-aperture zooms; I know many 'togs regard one or two as essential but I've never really felt the lack, ...


If you don't need f2.8 zooms, you don't need f2.8 zooms. It's just more weight and cost, where your fast primes do what you need. I did find the f2.8 zoom option very good for event photography or even wildlife though. It's a much brighter lens and is easier to focus with the traditional OVF, plus AF would work just that much faster and more accurately. But with the improvements in AF systems that's no longer as compelling.
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There's at least 7 unique x-400mm zooms in A-mount (not counting variations of each):

Sony 70-400 G SSM & II
Tokina 80-400 AT-X 840 & II
Cosina 100-400
Minolta 100-400 APO
Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM (OS)
Sigma 135-400 APO (DG)
Tamron 200-400

The SSM II lens is the only current one. Third-party E-mount lenses aren't fully up-to-date either. They don't support 20 FPS on 2017's A9. The third-party E-mount lenses are a bit more up-to-date than the A-mount SSM II lenses.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote crysania Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2021 at 21:30
I still have the Tamron 200-400 f/5.6 for my a77ii. It's SUPER cheap and not a bad lens for what it is (and it was free for me so there's that! lol).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2021 at 21:34
@QuietOC

Not a lot there that could be bought new. I did put that qualifier in. Was there anything other than the Sony 70-400 that was actually in production in the Sony A-mount period?
a7riii- Voigtländer 15/4.5, 110/2.5 M; Zeiss Loxia- 21/2.8, 35/2, 50/2 & 85/2.4, Zeiss Batis- 85/1.8 & 135/2.8; Sony 24-105/4 G; Sigma 70/2.8 M; Tamron 150-500 f5-6.7; Sony SAL 135/2.8 STF
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Hezu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2021 at 21:45
Originally posted by Wētāpunga Wētāpunga wrote:

Not a lot there that could be bought new. I did put that qualifier in. Was there anything other than the Sony 70-400 that was actually in production in the Sony A-mount period?
All those Sigmas were released in Sony α era: 135-400 2006, 120-400 2008 and 120-400 OS 2010. Of course, it is possible that these were not that commonly available everywhere (especially in A mount).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Wētāpunga Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 October 2021 at 22:50
Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

I suspect I shall never reach true lens satisfaction - I am not convinced it even exists.


I think if you enjoy trying out new lenses it will be a challenge.

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:

Currently I am A-mount only (okay there are a few adapted M42s - but I have ne real yearnings in that direction). There are a number of A Mount lenses I would love to have - but I cannot convince myself to spend £500+ on a lens very often.

Which is the problem with E-mount - almost all the lenses that seem desirable are in that price bracket.


Ah, indeed. They are rather pricey.
I've balked at paying more than $NZ2k for an E-mount lens. With some judicious 2nd-hand purchases, finding sales and cash offers, the average I've paid for a lens is $NZ1,370. The most expensive was the Tamron 150-500 at $NZ2,145. That's actually cheaper than the most expensive A-mount lens I bought (70-200/2.8 G SSM)

Originally posted by Phil Wood Phil Wood wrote:


And, yes, I would like an A1 with a few top-notch modern lenses.


Nobody said anything about camera-contentment . I'd love an A1 also...
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Originally posted by LAbernethy LAbernethy wrote:

That's not really surprising. You've been there and done that. You know where you want go and how to get there. I still have an extensive collections of lenses where I really only use 4 or 5 regularly. The rest were buy to try and side by side comparisons to see which delivered. If the whole lot burned down tomorrow I could settle on 1 body and 5 lenses pretty quickly.

I like that 1 body and 5 lenses concept, I could even get around quite well w the 3 lens most think of
Never had the desire to collect multiple cameras and lenses. I actually get more excited on the computer end of things.
Right now I'm out usually photographing w 2 very light weight cameras strapped, one on ea shoulder. The lens selection on the cameras depends on the subject, mountains or museums, etc. and a small backpack w the 3rd and 4th lens and stuff

It has taken me years to come to this configuration
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Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Originally posted by skm.sa100 skm.sa100 wrote:

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

The e-mount lens lineup thread shows I have been through a lot


Have you considered professional counseling for your problem?


The thought had crossed my mind
But then that means accepting I have a problem which I don't of course


I got cured from the GAS some time ago realizing I have enough stuff.
So now I only have a tiny list of things to buy: 50, 35, 24. 14 GMs, an a1 (or two). Oh, and that 600/4 looks so nice for the occasional moon shot


I like this definition on cured. I am mostly cured too

One day when I win the lottery I'll own the 400mm f2.8.

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Originally posted by QuietOC QuietOC wrote:

There's at least 7 unique x-400mm zooms in A-mount (not counting variations of each):

Sony 70-400 G SSM & II
Tokina 80-400 AT-X 840 & II
Cosina 100-400
Minolta 100-400 APO
Sigma 120-400 APO DG HSM (OS)
Sigma 135-400 APO (DG)
Tamron 200-400

The SSM II lens is the only current one. Third-party E-mount lenses aren't fully up-to-date either. They don't support 20 FPS on 2017's A9. The third-party E-mount lenses are a bit more up-to-date than the A-mount SSM II lenses.


Sure but how many of these would one actually want to buy for use on a A99ii. Personally just the 70-400mm. I wouldn't buy some of these even for shooting on 24mp.

3rd party lenses on e-mount can shoot 15fps on A9 & A1. 30fps is just crazy and not sure it's actually necessary. 20fps is nice to have. 15fps is still amazing especially considering the current canikon sports DSLRs can go no higher.
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Just some food for thought:
Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

Sure but how many of these would one actually want to buy for use on a A99ii. Personally just the 70-400mm. I wouldn't buy some of these even for shooting on 24mp.
I understand your position and probably agree. However, I think this is not true for everybody. What about a landscape photographer or a wedding photographer who once in a while goes out for some light birding or sports - this photographer doesn't need the best resolution out of the A99m2. Most of these pictures will be shared at small sizes, so the fact that the lens cannot resolve the full 42mp of the A99m2 is no problem.

But then, some of these lenses have problems beyond resolution.....

Originally posted by nandbytes nandbytes wrote:

3rd party lenses on e-mount can shoot 15fps on A9 & A1. 30fps is just crazy and not sure it's actually necessary. 20fps is nice to have. 15fps is still amazing especially considering the current canikon sports DSLRs can go no higher.
Canon EOS 1Dx3 goes to 20fps and the Canon EOS R3 offers 30fps. You might not need it, but like megapixels it is nice to have and a problem for a camera company who cannot offer it. But then, the 2011 Canon EOS 1Dx only offered 14fps and the 2012 Nikon D4 stopped at 11fps....
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