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    Posted: 19 January 2010 at 10:13
Hi everybody,

I'm trying to understand the logic of the D9ti's serial numbers.
We just know that there are fewer than 1000 D9ti but i'm wondering if there is a logic in couting between "alpha", "dynax" and "maxxum".
May be Matthias (Paul) knows something about that ?

So, D9ti's owners, can you tell me the number and if your 9ti is an "alpha", a "maxxum" or a "dynax" ?

I will update this thread (last update : 04/06/2016).

- 0007 : maxxum
- 0010 : dynax
- 0019 : dynax
- 0022 : dynax
- 0023 : dynax
- 0025 : maxxum
- 0031 : maxxum
- 0032 : dynax
- 0039 : alpha
- 0042 : alpha
- 0043 : maxxum
- 0044 : maxxum
- 0051 : dynax
- 0054 : maxxum
- 0055 : dynax
- 0059 : dynax
- 0073 : dynax
- 0075 : maxxum
- 0093 : dynax
- 0098 : maxxum
- 0100 : maxxum
- 0101 : dynax
- 0103 : dynax
- 0111 : dynax
- 0124 : alpha
- 0140 : dynax
- 0141 or 0147 (difficult to read the last number) : alpha
- 0153 : dynax
- 0157 : dynax (upgraded ADI/SSM)
- 0165 : dynax
- 0194 : dynax
- 0202 : alpha
- 0203 : dynax
- 0204 : alpha
- 0210 : dynax
- 0218 : alpha
- 0221 : dynax?
- 0222 : dynax
- 0223 : dynax
- 0240 : dynax
- 0280 : dynax
- 0291 : alpha
- 0292 : dynax
- 0303 : dynax (upgraded ADI/SSM)
- 0307 : dynax
- 0313 : alpha
- 0314 : dynax
- 0322 : dynax
- 0341 : dynax
- 0355 : alpha
- 0359 : dynax
- 0370 : dynax
- 0371 : dynax
- 0374 : dynax
- 0375 : dynax
- 0376 : dynax
- 0377 : dynax
- 0562 : alpha
- 0701 : alpha
- Some Dynax 9ti with 8-digit serial numbers : there are at least 8 (all with 199011xx serial number ; xx = 66, 71, 72, 97) ; and one another with the serial 17902213.

- According to an ex-Marketing Manager Europe who was working lot of years at Minolta headquarters Europe (seller of number 010), the German allocation of 9tis was 90. He said me the Dynax 9Ti with the body number 0001 is still in Germany in a show case of KonicaMinolta’s Headquarters of Business Solutions in Langenhagen (located close to Hannover).
- According to konan16, the UK's allocation of 9Tis was 40 and the serial numbers were 301 to 341.
- According to the seller of number 222, the Switzerland's allocation of 9Tis was only 5 (the 222 would be one of them).

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Patrick

Edited by Slipsale - 06 April 2016 at 08:25
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Originally posted by Slipsale Slipsale wrote:


I'm trying to understand the logic of the D9ti's serial number.
We just know that there are fewer than 999 D9ti but i'm wondering if there is a logic in couting between "alpha", "dynax" and "maxxum".

The official limited 9Ti series featured 4-digit serial numbers in the range #0001 to #1000, worldwide. Unfortunately, I have no idea, how the serial numbers are distributed among Dynax, Maxxum, and Alpha designators.

It might be interesting to note that some Dynax 9Ti units with 8-digit serial numbers showed up in Germany at large retailers such as Foto Oehling in fall 2002, in summer 2004 and in spring 2006. They were identical to the limited series except for the serial number plate, but they came with incomplete limited accessories.
So far, all tracked serial numbers of this second edition were in the range #199011xx, but, of course, may not be limited to this range. So far, we haven't found any Maxxum 9Ti and Alpha-9Ti units with 8-digit serial numbers, but they may exist as well. Presumably, these bodies may have been assembled from spare parts no longer required.

In order to better distinguish between the original series and the second series, we coined the terms 9Ti "model I" and 9Ti "model II" at MiFo.

- Minolta Dynax 9 (2098-100/2098-104) with 8-digit serial numbers
- Minolta Maxxum 9 (2098-300) with 8-digit serial numbers
- Minolta α-9 (2098-350) with 8-digit serial numbers

- Minolta Dynax 9Ti "model I" (2098-150, 2098-154) with 4-digit serial numbers
- Minolta Dynax 9Ti "model II" (2098-???) with 8-digit serial numbers
- Minolta Maxxum 9Ti (2098-500) with 4-digit serial numbers
- Minolta α-9Ti (2098-550) with 4-digit serial numbers

Unfortunately, none of them supported SSM and ADI out of the box.

Naming the camera "model II" is in analogy with the special Chinese α-7 Limited "model II":

- Minolta Dynax 7 (2162-291/2162-204) with 8-digit serial numbers
- Minolta Maxxum 7 (2162-490) with 8-digit serial numbers
- Minolta α-7 (2162-600) with 8-digit serial numbers

- Minolta α-7 Chinese Navigation Model (2162-092) with 8-digit serial numbers and different menu system.

- Minolta Dynax 7 Limited (2162-250) with 4-digit serial numbers
- Minolta α-7 Limited "model I" (2162-650) with 4-digit serial numbers
- Minolta α-7 Limited "model II" (2162-091) with 8-digit serial numbers for China

So, the 7 Limited does not appear to be very limited at all, if it was officially distributed with 8-digit serial numbers in China.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slipsale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 January 2010 at 08:53
Hi Matthias,

Thank you for your help.
I know the existence of one 9ti with 8-digit serial numbers. When I knew it, I thought it was an error repair.
You show me the existence of several cases.

But if they are all in Europe (all these 9ti are "Dynax"), can we suppose it is a mistake of the same repair center (like Runtime) ?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote matthiaspaul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 January 2010 at 10:22
So far we could track down seven Minolta Dynax 9Ti bodies with 8-digit serial numbers in Germany, all in the #199011xx range. See also:

http://www.mi-fo.de/forum/index.php?showtopic=12491 [de]

These units were sold new in broadly advertised "sales" (not mentioning the serial number thing, though - actually, Foto Oehling was not aware of this issue until we asked about it), I assume, more of such bodies exist.

It is possible that these units were assembled at (Konica) Minolta European Service Center (ESC) in Bremen (now part of Runtime) in order to reduce stock of spare parts, but so far we weren't able to find out.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slipsale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 January 2010 at 12:02
Well, very interesting Matthias !

So, with my known D9ti with 8-digit serial numbers, there are 8 bodies. I wonder if this one have been bought from Oehling too. I will ask my contact.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slipsale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 January 2010 at 11:26
Hum, today I know the number 0059 is a Dynax.

So, versions ("dynax" and "maxxum") seem mixed. Someone will give me the number of his A9ti soon.
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I have a Dynax 9Ti purchased in London #0223
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Post Options Post Options   Quote matthiaspaul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2010 at 02:33
Isn't it strange, that we have found only odd numbers, so far?

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slipsale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 24 January 2010 at 14:56
Good point Matthias.
Come on 9ti's owners, help me to find an even serial number.

Originally posted by markkubis markkubis wrote:

I have a Dynax 9Ti purchased in London #0223

Thank you for your help.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slipsale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2010 at 08:39
I Matthias,

I have our first even serial number : 0124 !
It is an Alpha 9ti.

May be the even serial numbers are only Alpha ?
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Post Options Post Options   Quote matthiaspaul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2010 at 11:38
That's what I assume as well...

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Yet another number from the list at MiFo:

http://www.mi-fo.de/forum/index.php?showtopic=25794&view=findpost&p=255280

#0101: Dynax 9Ti

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Post Options Post Options   Quote matthiaspaul Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2010 at 14:58
Here are a few more serial numbers found in old MiFo forum articles:

#0022: Dynax 9Ti (photo really shows a Dynax 9Ti, but not photo of serial number plate - could still be a typo)

#0111: Dynax 9Ti

#0194: Dynax 9Ti (yet another Dynax with even serial number)

#0221: Dynax? 9Ti (probably Dynax, but since poster did not mention the camera name, Maxxum might be possible as well)

#19901166: Dynax 9Ti (bought in February 2006 at Foto Oehling, Germany -- according to Foto Oehling, this body was part of a batch of 9 bodies directly bought from (Konica) Minolta, Germany, presumably in 2006)

#19901171: Dynax 9Ti (bought late November 2002 at Foto Oehling, Germany)

#19901172: Dynax 9Ti (bought at Foto Oehling, Germany)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote Slipsale Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 January 2010 at 23:17
- 0292 : dynax

I wonder which version is the first one.
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