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Nice pictures as always.

It's the improved AF speed I'm interested in. I take the pictures for my son's rugby team and the 70-400 lens is perfect for this. The only area that it struggles with is when you have a player running directly towards you. It's rare that those pictures are in focus unless I rely on the spray and pray approach where I'll get a few keepers.

The A77 and the 70-400 is a good combination for sports in good light. This new improved lens takes things forward a bit and it wouldn't take much of an improvement in the AF system for it to be a really competitive package outside of the pro setups. I await with eager hope that the A78 (or whatever the new camera will be called) might have such an improved AF system. Presumably it will at least add AF-D and better tracking even if the main AF module is the same?
 



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Post Options Post Options   Quote Jocelynne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2013 at 11:10
@Gustav: Thank you for your excellent examples. I am content that I have waited for the SAL70-400 SSM G II.
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Those are very crisp images. Thanks for sharing.
Did you use a flash?

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Great results... now we're waiting for some real action - kingfishers!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote ijsvogel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2013 at 15:39
Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Those are very crisp images. Thanks for sharing.
Did you use a flash?

Kind regards,

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hi jonas , i never use a flash

greetings
gustav
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Beautiful images. Lovely Bokeh on most of them.
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This looks awesome! ijsvogel, do you think there is a significant leap in IQ on it compared to the silver version?
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Originally posted by glassesofwater glassesofwater wrote:

This looks awesome! ijsvogel, do you think there is a significant leap in IQ on it compared to the silver version?


jes indeed , i`m not theory theoretical , but what i see is great , it`s faster , it give`s a great IQ , and i think this lens shall also awsome with the NEW CAMERA`S that is coming , with the new sensor`s , sony started with this new sensors with the A99 , the A58 have also this new sensor ,

if you live near me , i want invited you to photograph with me , and try this lens , but you live in brasil , and i in the netherlands
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Post Options Post Options   Quote glassesofwater Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2013 at 16:27
Originally posted by ijsvogel ijsvogel wrote:

Originally posted by glassesofwater glassesofwater wrote:

This looks awesome! ijsvogel, do you think there is a significant leap in IQ on it compared to the silver version?


jes indeed , i`m not theory theoretical , but what i see is great , it`s faster , it give`s a great IQ , and i think this lens shall also awsome with the NEW CAMERA`S that is coming , with the new sensor`s , sony started with this new sensors with the A99 , the A58 have also this new sensor ,

if you live near me , i want invited you to photograph with me , and try this lens , but you live in brasil , and i in the netherlands


Oh, thanks for the invitation!

I'm glad I didn't buy the silver version now - If I get one of those, it will be the white version!
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Post Options Post Options   Quote marlon127 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2013 at 17:02
I can't imagine the new Nikon 80-400 topping this lens. I guess it's a bargain as well being $1k cheaper in the US at least.
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Originally posted by ijsvogel ijsvogel wrote:

Originally posted by Jonas A-R Jonas A-R wrote:

Those are very crisp images. Thanks for sharing.
Did you use a flash?

Kind regards,

JOnas


hi jonas , i never use a flash

greetings
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Ok, thanks. I just noticed some very well defined catch lights in the eyes in most of your portraits. I guess it is the sun then. I almost forgot it exists
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Hi Gustav,

as an owner of the silver version I'm considering the update to mark II. What I see is terrific sharpness - which is not that much of a surprise since the mark I excels also in this department. I take your word concerning the improved focussing speed. Looking your results there's only one thing what I found intriguing: the OOF areas (bokeh) look noticeable smoother - and this would be a diference in comparison with mark I which had its somewhat busy bokeh criticized in reviews. The question is whether you took special care in your image composition to get pleasant background rendering, whether the shooting conditions were luckily favourable fpr achieving this look or whether the new lens effectively behaves differently from the previous? Perhaps this a the difference between "real life shooting" what you performed and the results of more formal reviewing "searching" for eventual glitches.
Any input would be greatly appreachiated.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote ijsvogel Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 06 March 2013 at 17:46
Originally posted by fritzenm fritzenm wrote:

Hi Gustav,

as an owner of the silver version I'm considering the update to mark II. What I see is terrific sharpness - which is not that much of a surprise since the mark I excels also in this department. I take your word concerning the improved focussing speed. Looking your results there's only one thing what I found intriguing: the OOF areas (bokeh) look noticeable smoother - and this would be a diference in comparison with mark I which had its somewhat busy bokeh criticized in reviews. The question is whether you took special care in your image composition to get pleasant background rendering, whether the shooting conditions were luckily favourable fpr achieving this look or whether the new lens effectively behaves differently from the previous? Perhaps this a the difference between "real life shooting" what you performed and the results of more formal reviewing "searching" for eventual glitches.
Any input would be greatly appreachiated.

M. Fritzen


hi fritzen , i shall try to explane,
i like bird/wildlife photography , and 95% of my picture`s are taken in the wild , most of the time i make a setup / hide , and learn/now the behaviour of the bird .

if you take picture`s of birds/animals you want to have a smooth background , because when you have a smooth background , the bird/animals come`s out of the picture , to get this smooth background , you must have 5,6,or 7 meters nothing behind the bird/animal

so if you in the wild or in the zoo , park it`s not only the camera and lens , but the most important the skill`s of the photographer , to try to get a nice background.

when you look to picture 1 ,3 ,4 , 11 and 12 the background is near the lion/bird

picture 1 and 2 you have the other lion and some leaf`s
picture 3 behind the monkey is a rock i think around 1.5 meter behind him
picture 4 around 1.5 meter behind the birds you have leaf`s

picture 11 and 12 you have close behind the duch cane

indeed , i was alway`s happy with my 70-400 M1 and also with the bokeh , the 70-400 MII, i think the bokeh is better but i`m not sure , i shall try to get a 70-400 M1 and compare them with the MII in the field

i hope this is the answer on your question

greetings
gustav

Edited by ijsvogel - 06 March 2013 at 18:11
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Truly amazing. That lens is razor sharp. Look at that crop. Will be a hard time for my to wait, my supplier shifted the ETA to 20th of April for my lens to arrive.

Thanks for sharing your experiences with us

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