Tokina 17mm F3.5 AT-X 17 AF - Fungus? |
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Neildlr ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 20 January 2020 Country: South Africa Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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Hi everyone. I need some help please.
I bought this lens today and while it is in otherwise perfect condition, I can't tell if these marks on the very final element at the back are just some manufacturing scratches on the glass or if it is fungus? It doesn't seem to affect the image quality. Photo taken with a 70mm Macro, full res link below. https://ibb.co/jrpDYNG ![]() Edited by Neildlr - 06 March 2023 at 17:11 |
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Neildlr ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 20 January 2020 Country: South Africa Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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My apologies, I just realised that this post should probably be in the A-Mount Lens sub forum.
Can a moderator please move it? |
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Snegren ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 November 2011 Country: Netherlands Location: Zuid Holland Status: Offline Posts: 6171 |
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Looks like fungus to me. Lens element easily removes as I see a slotted holding ring. Perhaps you can clean, but if you can return with refund you avoid disappointment when you can't clean. If you leave it it may grow until you cannot use the lens anymore.
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japp ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 25 March 2021 Country: Netherlands Status: Offline Posts: 38 |
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i don't know if it actually is fungus, normaly fungus leaves some lines but this looks kind of like a bit of dust or something. and i would agree with Snegren's advice.
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Neildlr ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 20 January 2020 Country: South Africa Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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I tried to clean it with a lens pen first, then tried a very lightly damp cloth that I carefully pushed with a plastic toothpick. None of that worked.
Then I carefully felt it using the toothpick and it actually feels like the glass has been sanded or scuffed? |
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Snegren ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 November 2011 Country: Netherlands Location: Zuid Holland Status: Offline Posts: 6171 |
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Sanded or scuffed would not make sense. Fungus can form acids that etch the glass. But, if you feel the glass is cleaned and the lens works well, problem solved isn't it.
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Neildlr ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 20 January 2020 Country: South Africa Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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I guess so. Its the first time I've ever seen this on a vintage lens (in the ones I've physically come across) so its just a bit odd.
I'll see if it gets larger or anything and then i guess we'll know. I have seen reports that fungus can leave marks on the coatings even after being cleaned so maybe this lens has had fungus in the past? |
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Snegren ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 11 November 2011 Country: Netherlands Location: Zuid Holland Status: Offline Posts: 6171 |
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Your guess is as good as mine |
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skm.sa100 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: 08 January 2009 Country: United States Location: Charlotte, NC Status: Offline Posts: 4501 |
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Instead of illuminating the lens from the front, it's better to hold up a flashlight thru the back of the lens and take a picture with the exact element in focus.
Fungus leaves telltale lines and dots and when you flash a light thru the back of the lens, it can show up as tendrils. It's quite normal that the pictures with the lens might be fine. The fungus could stay that way for years without growing, if it is fungus. But since it's a recent purchase, you might want to return it just to make sure you didn't pay market price for what could turn out to be a dud. Regards Sashi |
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Neildlr ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 20 January 2020 Country: South Africa Status: Offline Posts: 8 |
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So I just had a good look as suggested, shining a large LED light through the front element and looking at the rear element. Still looks pretty much the same. No lines or tendrils. A few pieces of dust.
I think I got it for a pretty good price (about half what I see it go for on ebay) and in my country it is fairly uncommon to find good A-Mount lenses, especially primes. I also got this with a Minolta 24mm 2.8 which is in perfect condition, except for the scratches on the outside of the hood. So, as long as these marks don't get any worse I'm very happy with the lens. |
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